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open Q to conservatives: What exactly is the difference between big corp & big gov that makes you implicitly trust 1 & mistrust the other?
Friday, 21-Nov-08 19:17:49 UTC from web-
@exador23 question well put, especially since they now appear to be morphing into the same thing.
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@exador23 Big corporations are inherently self-interested, and hence predictable.
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@exador23 Mind you, I'm not a conservative. I don't believe in governments. I believe in systems, not institutions.
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@t3knomanser fair enough. but a dictatorship can be pretty predictable also.
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@exador23 Not terribly, no. Dictatorships are woefully unpredictable, since they often revolve around the whims of one unstable person.
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@t3knomanser good point. One might say that self-interest is unpredictable -at least it varies w/ the time-frame of interest (short vs long)
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@exador23 (for the most part) I can choose which corporations I do business with.
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@exador23 Has anyone written about the use of OAuth in OpenMicrobloggin Spec being totally inappropriate? Seems to me it is.
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@exador23 I don't trust either one
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@joecascio I don't know. you could run that by @evan, who just stepped out, & maybe @marjoleink #omb #oauth
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@exador23 BTW, I would never claim to implicitly trust "big corp".
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@exador23 When we say "self-interest", we're usually limiting our consideration to rational actors in the control-theory sense of "rational"
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@exador23 Companies have one goal only: money. This is what makes them predictable (and generally rational in control theory).
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@johnbfrommemphis nor do I. but the only leverage points with corporate (or any) self-interest activity are gov, unions, & boycotts.
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@exador23 Just curious if anyone else had noticed the same thing. I'm writing a blog post about it which I'll link here when I'm done. Thx.
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@exador23 all we got are the boycotts .. I don't think unions are in it for the people anymore if they ever were
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@exador23 Predictability can be overrated. Also concerned w/ potential for destructiveness. Some big corps are proving to be equally so.
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@johnbfrommemphis You'd be working 80 hour weeks alongside your kids without unions. but yes they're self-interest can cause probs too.
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@markschulz Predictability allows you to shortcut destructiveness if you're clever. Which our systems are very much NOT clever.
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@t3knomanser true. but who is to do the shortcutting?
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@t3knomanser humans always mismanage power & resources if left unchecked whether in govt or corp. very predictable. are we clever?
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@markschulz That's why I think we should remove humans from government completely. Government should be completely self-regulating.
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@t3knomanser @hal / @eliza 2012!
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@t3knomanser cool. if you figure out how to do that, let's apply it to big corps as well and we're all set! : )
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@exador23 I think 2012 is ambitious, and we wouldn't want a single machine responsible any more than we want a single person in charge.
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@markschulz I'm fine with that.
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@mcnee I'm talking in generalities. I mean, why is the GOP outsourcing to private business to run the war & reconstruction in Iraq?
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@markschulz @t3knomanser Isn't most of the stock market buying and selling already largely computer algorithm based?
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@exador23 I think the last figure I saw was about 50% of trading is "program" trading. Not sure what the figure is now.
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@joecascio Authorizing a remote server to push notices to you seems like a good use of OAuth. Looking forward to your blog post.
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@evan I should have it done today. Stay tuned.
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Op-ed piece: http://ur1.ca/rgb @evan and anyone else interested in a few thoughts.
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@joecascio OK. Pls don't misrepresent my point of view; I think authorizing a remote server to push to your inbox is a good use of OAuth.
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@evan Still working on the post about OAuth.
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