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@ev1 Sorry about the repeat. My button got stuck. I was emphatic, but not ~that~ emphatic!
Wednesday, 26-Nov-08 23:37:00 UTC from web-
@emperornorton I think @kshep has a point - everything on identi.ca is searchable, track is just doing it realtime instead of post-facto.
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@dwd If the shift does something, it means you want something more installed into the system. It suggests non-innocence.
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@dwd And no one has explained to me why I can't opt out of track if it is implemented. That's what I have been asking for.
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@emperornorton You can't opt out because you agreed to this: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
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@emperornorton If you don't agree to that, you need to stop posting.
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@emperornorton You opt out by not posting.
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@kshep That's like saying I opt out of facial recognition by not going for walks.
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@emperornorton No, it's not.
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the identi.ca user agreement states that your text and files are available under CCA3.0 @kshep: @emperornorton You opt out by not posting.
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@kshep @emperornorton It's about 'expectation of privacy'. Posting here is like putting a flyer on a bulletin board at the grocery store
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@emperornorton I'd love to see you elaborate in more than 140c...
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@emperornorton ... how a web service you join explicitly and whose terms you agree to is a 'quasi-public area'
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@emperornorton ... with some vague privacy rights that somehow negate the explicit content licensing you agreed to.
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I'm right, I think, in asserting that if @emperornorton created his own laconi.ca it wouldn't be handled by @kshep's track, am I?
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@kshep @emperornorton By which I mean, by default. Or does federating OMB instances force licensing?
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@dwd That, and the content wouldn't be under Creative Commons, it seems.
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@kshep @emperornorton So that would imply it's entirely possible to federate, follow, and be followed without being "tracked"?
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@dwd You license your content. You don't have control over the methods by which that content is discovered.
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@kshep But if it's "my" laconi.ca instance, can I choose my own licensing?
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@dwd You can't say "You are free to share, to copy, distribute and transmit the work... but not if you found it via Google, or IdentiSPY"
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@mcnee Right - but would that still federate? Or by participating in the federation, do we have to license in a certain way?
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@evan Right, so that means @emperornorton can indeed "opt out" of track et al, but he needs to use his own instance (or a non-tracked one).
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@mcnee No. It's no longer fair use, because the entire stream is sent by identi.ca to track - track's subsequent copying might be fair use.
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@emperornorton Blocking on Twitter doesn't protect you. If you don't make your stream private, all one has to do is log out to see you.
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@emperornorton - Sookie is a new cat - she just arrived today. It's going to be an interesting week. How old are your cats?
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@emperornorton - So you had it easy - sisters! I was so tickled to find Sookie...she's so sweet, abt. 1.5 yrs old, and a tabby.
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@emperornorton - animals are great, IMO. They're so grateful for small things.
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@emperornorton - That's what I like! Talkers! All three cats are talkers, but they're being abnormally quiet right now. Hmmm...
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@emperornorton - exactly why I wouldn't own a dog. I'm lazy like an old cat.
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@emperornorton - Xena! How sexy!
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@emperornorton I have Gallery on the server, gallery servers just *suck* but YMMV. I like WP's instant gallery feature, hate the uploader.
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@emperornorton If I had root on the server I'd try Coppermine. Running 10.5 out of a 20gb powerbook HD kinda precludes testing software :-(
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@emperornorton - I love terrers, setters, labs and pekinese and all types of dogs. Especially when they belong to someone else. =)
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@emperornorton may be too close to Hawai'i for comfort though.
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@emperornorton - it is! It's perfect for files - they fit just right.
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@emperornorton - absolutely.
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@emperornorton laughing when I shouldn't over the "new Titter group" designation...
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