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@m1 I know it's not your group but you're active there - I hope a note from you will weigh in more than from me
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@marjoleink I just posted a dent. If there is no reaction I will escalate & ask for admin rights @ the top :)
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@m1 thanks for helping to kep the neighborhood cleean :)
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@marjoleink Yep, tidy up your group lists :)
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@m1 only a group admin can block accounts from groups; if the admin himself is blocked, the group becomes an orphan, …
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@m1 … and a nice source of incoming links for every spammer subscribing to that group
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@m1 I'm not sure if spammer groups is a new phenomenon or I just noticed it recently
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@marjoleink No, spammers in !de only showed up recently & were grouped in a row.
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@m1 the list is chronological - yes, group subscription does seem at least a recent phenomenon; don't know about group creation though
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@marjoleink !spamreport dents should contain a link to the profile or username to give subscribers a chance to block #spam the easy way.
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@m1 I delinberately do not link to spammers to avoid giving them an extra link! just username plus user ID will work and …
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@marjoleink I don't see any danger in an easy link to their profile.
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@m1 link spammers thrive on incoming links - a spam report with a link to them would actually help - at least until the spammer is removed
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@marjoleink Thank link is nothing but comfortable. It's absurd to create more work for ppl. willing to block spammers than necessary.
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@marjoleink No idea why my fingers wrote "Thank" instead of "That". You see me staring at my own dent with open mouth :)
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@m1 you have a point - but I find it equally absurd to help spammers while reporting them ;)
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@marjoleink You don't help. It's equally absurd to believe that search engines don't realize a spam link.
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@jargon i don't drink alcohol
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@m1 I really doubt search engines are wise to how spammers exploit microblogging sites yet - I see new techniques popping up regularly here
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@marjoleink Don't split hairs. SEs do a very good job in using spam blacklists for landing pages. I am willing to block but want comfort.
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@marjoleink My opinion: rel="nofollow bullshit" :)
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@m1 why? the major search engines do take this into account
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@marjoleink No! No! I am not willing to start a 'nofollow' discussion. In short: Semantic bullshit.
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@m1 semantic yes: it doesn't do what the word says. what it *does* do is take away link juice; the word was chosen badly, the effect is good
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@marjoleink Tell me where you find #nf on #spam sites?
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@m1 if I ever get to set up my own statusnet instance, adding rel="nofollow" would probably be the first anti-spam fix I'd make
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@marjoleink In short 2: A link is spam if the landing page is spam. #nf is a bloody stupid workaround.
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@m1 so what if it is bloody stupid - if it works it works
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@marjoleink Yeah, but for what?
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@m1 it does what it was designed to do - no matter how stupid or how undsemantic
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@marjoleink No. #nf puts links under general suspicion. In short: #spam wins.
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@m1 no not "suspicion"; what it says is "I, site owner, am not responsible for these links and do not want to transfer my authority to them"
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@marjoleink I would hate your website for telling me that. How would you handle your own links on the same website?
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@marjoleink When used in user/group lists, yes. But rel="nofollow"-ing links in posts says “*this user* does not want to transfer authority”
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@marjoleink —I suggest leaving nofollow off links from Featured, Popular & users' posts; and links to users' subscriptions and groups…
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@marjoleink —but including nofollow on links to subscribers, and in group member-lists. —i.e. omit nofollow where the user actively links.
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@marjoleink If you set up your own instance, you wouldn't have to allow spammers on to it in the first place
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@m1 How do I give you admin rights? I'd be happy to do so - sorry I didn't react earlier.
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@m1 Hmm.. technically, I know how now. I need to navigate ALL the group member pages to find you in there and click "make admin". Argh.
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@w0nk0 Go back from the end.
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@m1 go to the group members page, find the member you want to make an admin, push "make admin".
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@evan Thanks! Database was wobbly, so I couldn't reach one of my groups to check. But I saw that my (pretty sure) group !np is orphaned.
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