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1. speeddefrost KDE

   I want to try out !kde 4.3.3 but i'm probably going to be disappointed again. Note to packagers: stop making gstreamer default.

   Tuesday, 10-Nov-09 06:33:51 UTC from web
   • Ryan Rix KDE , Fedora users

     @knopper67 xine was defeault in !fedora 11 !kde.

     Tuesday, 10-Nov-09 06:35:54 UTC
   • speeddefrost Arch Linux , GTK Toolkit , Ryan Rix

     @phrkonaleash Cool, I've been wanting to give fedora a try again. !archlinux packagers keep compiling kde so it depends on !gtk. #wtf

     Tuesday, 10-Nov-09 06:50:47 UTC
   • Ryan Rix

     @knopper67 well, Fedora itself depends on GTK so...

     Tuesday, 10-Nov-09 06:53:59 UTC
   • speeddefrost Ryan Rix

     @phrkonaleash Also, Does !fedora kde have any gnome dependencies installed by default?

     Tuesday, 10-Nov-09 06:54:20 UTC
   • Mike Lothian Gentoo Linux

     @knopper67 I try to keep a pure KDE system, it's damn near impossible to build the whole of kde with out gtk+ creaping in. !gentoo

     Tuesday, 10-Nov-09 11:37:25 UTC
   • Mike Lothian

     @knopper67 Usually the networkmanager daemon (not just nm-applet) brings it in

     Tuesday, 10-Nov-09 11:38:04 UTC
   • Mike Lothian

     @knopper67 Usually the networkmanager daemon brings it in (not just the nm-applet)

     Tuesday, 10-Nov-09 11:39:48 UTC
   • Wojciech Arabczyk Mike Lothian

     @fireburn it akshully is, i managed... you might want to disable gphoto2 ;)

     Tuesday, 10-Nov-09 11:40:02 UTC
   • Luka Stojanovic Gentoo Linux , Mike Lothian

     @fireburn avoiding gtk *is* imposible, I satisfy myself with libgnome free !gentoo

     Tuesday, 10-Nov-09 12:46:20 UTC
   • Ryan Rix

     @knopper67 yeah, most of the system utils are GTK :(

     Tuesday, 10-Nov-09 13:46:01 UTC
   • Ben Boeckel

     @knopper67 yeah, still nm-applet for default since knm hasn't been deemed ready, system tools, etc. can be removed though

     Tuesday, 10-Nov-09 15:16:07 UTC