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@laserjock I agree that !ubuntu should drop Evolution from default CD, don't normal people just use webmail?
Wednesday, 18-Nov-09 18:23:43 UTC from web-
@jbicha: Evolution is much improved, low resource and stable for me.
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@jbicha I'm not aware of any webmail clients that have good GPG integration; as such Evolution, Thunderbird etc are still useful to me
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@technoviking Mutt uses less resources and very stable :)
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@teddks i dont know. im not in that session. i was replying to someone who mentioned it was being dropped
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@maco gmail's web interface is non-free software. And plenty of people don't use webmail.
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@maco Most older users are accustomed to mail clients, as are business users. Kids (and recently-kids) use webmail, sometimes.
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@maco I have a gmail account but to say I'm using it is grossly overrated. not including an email client seems madness to me; imitating win7
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@teddks ive used webmail for over 10 years. i JUST switched to a mail client last year for "reply to list" support
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@marjoleink Yeah, I don't like web mail either.
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@maco For a very nebulous definition of webmail. AOL the program has a built-in client that's different from AOL the website.
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@teddks does "older" = middle aged? cuz older than that i dont think are too accustomed to email *at all*. my mom never used a mal client
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@maco Older means elderly, in that statement. Most people I work with use outlook or AOL the program, or Mail.app.
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@maco I stared using email in the late 1980's - old enough for you?
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@maco but the compuserve clients did download email
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@maco Yeah, you and I started using email (and webmail) at around the same time. I think before that, clients were more in vogue.
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@maco especially because people using email for work would have used a mail client. How many people still use Outlook for that reason?
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@teddks yeah i know outlook has a common desktop client. i didnt think all businesses used such things though
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@maco a *lot* of businesses use outlook
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@marjoleink but what do people use at home? i kinda thought even if you use outlook at work you use webmail at home
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@maco why would they use webmail at home? why not what they're used to - which is an email client? I have no numbers but that seems likely
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@maco don't forget that many people in business used email before they even had a computer at home, let alone internet, let alone web
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@marjoleink also don't forget that if you get hundreds of emails and need to sort them the web is terrible for that.
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@kajarii I absolutely agree - you have tons more control with a client, and with mails stored locally - think search, for example
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@maco and what people do at work gets to them; There are a ton of MSR people that go in using GNU and go out using Windows :-)
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@marjoleink yeah, and GUI apps that don't support regex are another annoyance the web browsers included. I like mutt!
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@marjoleink Me chiming in on the email discussion. After using email, I still think snail mail is awesomer.
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@marjoleink But I've made more friends over email than I have on facebook.
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@marjoleink So, I suppose, in the end email FTW.
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@marjoleink Also, email FTF (Friends)
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@marjoleink And also, email FTLE (Loose Ends)
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@marjoleink because using outlook at home with a free mail provider has historically been not possible. yahoo has always charged for POP3
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@maco Not always? I used Yahoo with POP3 for years. Possibly differs by country?
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@bma O_o in the US you had to pay for POP3 access (not sure they even had IMAP) at least in the 90s. i didnt see anything indicating change
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@maco I don't remember them having IMAP, but I used POP3 at various times without ever paying.
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@winterweaver I'm sure some people use openssh-server, wine, amarok, etc. !ubuntu should still support Evolution but the CD is full!
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@jbicha : @winterweaver : Evolution is out?
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@cprofitt no, it was just a suggestion, since it looks like the Gimp is being pulled
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