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1. Luis R. Rodriguez

   http://groups.google.com/group/android-kernel/browse_thread/thread/9930f53b19964c4c Ok I poked android folks about the kernel android soup.

   Tuesday, 05-Jan-10 17:33:48 UTC from web at Alviso, California, United States
   • Greg K-H

     @mcgrof give up, the android kernel is a total and complete mess (i.e. a failure in my eyes).

     Tuesday, 05-Jan-10 20:02:31 UTC
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   • Greg K-H

     @mcgrof give up, the android kernel is a total and complete mess (i.e. a failure in my eyes).

     Tuesday, 05-Jan-10 20:02:31 UTC Repeated by chrigl
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   • Bradley M. Kuhn Android OS , Greg K-H

     @gregkh, do you have a more written up about why you believe !android is a failure? Is it that you agree with Harald Welte's assessment?

     Tuesday, 05-Jan-10 21:24:44 UTC
   • Greg K-H Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn I agree w/ Harald, but have a different viewpoint, as I just threw out the !android code from the kernel. I'll write in detail later.

     Tuesday, 05-Jan-10 21:31:44 UTC
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   • Luis R. Rodriguez Greg K-H

     @gregkh indeed their staging commitment is gross but curious, what other option would you consider for a phone?

     Tuesday, 05-Jan-10 21:41:38 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Android OS

     @mcgrof, !android still seems the shortest best path to a fully FaiF phone. I'm open-minded, but #Maemo still has more proprietary parts.

     Tuesday, 05-Jan-10 21:44:28 UTC
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   • Luis R. Rodriguez Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn yeah I hear ya, my guess is things will slowly start getting better, but right now its still my top pick

     Tuesday, 05-Jan-10 21:50:41 UTC
   • Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn: I heard John "maddog" Hall explain that #Android was not really open and that the Neo #FreeRunner is the only true FaiF phone

     Tuesday, 05-Jan-10 22:09:38 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Android OS , Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni

     @maddingue, maddog's correct, but #FreeRunner has no platform future. !android's here to stay, we should go last mile to get it fully Free.

     Tuesday, 05-Jan-10 22:12:45 UTC
   • Greg K-H

     @mcgrof I love my G1, and would take a Nexus One gladly, there really are no other options out there right now that I like.

     Tuesday, 05-Jan-10 22:17:19 UTC
   • Andrew Wafaa Symbian OS , Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn what about !symbian? Do they not figure in the open/free mobile platform?

     Wednesday, 06-Jan-10 06:35:45 UTC
   • Hubert Figuière Andrew Wafaa

     @awafaa AHEM. It is like saying there is OpenMoko...

     Wednesday, 06-Jan-10 07:37:54 UTC
   • Andrew Wafaa Hubert Figuière

     @hub how so? ok so not all of the code base has been opened up yet, but it will. theres no lockin to lang or anything. whats not to like?

     Wednesday, 06-Jan-10 07:46:11 UTC
   • Hubert Figuière Andrew Wafaa

     @awafaa you said it.

     Wednesday, 06-Jan-10 07:54:11 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Andrew Wafaa

     @awafaa, #symbian is controlled by conglomeration of companies & not buildable. AFAICT, you can't make its release work on any phone today

     Wednesday, 06-Jan-10 20:18:53 UTC