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@cmsj I care about what #canonical spends its time in ubuntu on, since any time they spend in nonfree sw is time not spent on free software.
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@teddks i wonder how many people u've completely turned off of foss,with your ceaseless ranting,past few days.
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@rysiek How is it different? How is enabling the use of something not also tacitly stating your support of that thing? Be specific.
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@kklimonda Ah, you haven't read the !Ubuntu Philosophy! Here, have a go: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/philosophy
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@jargon everytime some posts to !fsf or !gnu the jesus/falcor duo http://www.peachstapler.com/jesus_falkor.jpg steals a first born child
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@jargon Probably none. How many have not started using !freesoftware because you have not advocated it to them?
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@alphakamp hey! it's Falcor, not Falkor.
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@edythemighty heh, I typed falcor the dude who made the picture spelled it falkor
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@alphakamp the neverending story. aptly fitting. lol
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@jargon ha good point
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@teddks No. Not until they say "we encourage you to use symphony".
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@teddks OpenOffice has MS's Trebuchet. Gwibber & Choqok support Twitter. Pidgin and Empathy support prop. IMs Etc.
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@pravus Those are five programs. You said "most". Do you have evidence for that factual claim?
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@findrzkeeprz Ah, you haven't read the !Ubuntu Philosophy! Here, have a go: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/philosophy
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@teddks Your going to base your defense on semantics and the fact I haven't gone through every GPL app ever made and create a real stat?
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@teddks Do they encourage more people to use ntfs by supporting it than they encourage to switch to GNU/Linux?
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@arnebab Is using NTFS with only free software unethical? I don't think it is.
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@teddks what are you arguing for?
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@arnebab My original statement was that Canonical should not be encouraging non-free software in Ubuntu. Then things got messy.
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@teddks "free" was with reference to price. When it comes to licenses, the choice is in your hands: you choose to install or not. done.
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@findrzkeeprz The issue here is that Canonical is encouraging the use of non-free software. I don't see your reply's relevance.
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@teddks I agree with you that canonical shouldn't promote unfree software. No use in getting more ppl to free software if we lose our soul.
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@teddks the discussing in-group is what made it messy to me.
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@arnebab Well, sorry, I guess. I'm doing everything I can to keep things consistent.
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@teddks ...obviously. You still aren't understanding what I'm saying. The fricking kernel that !linux operates on supports prop software.
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@teddks I'm done responding to you. You clearly can't understand what I'm saying or resort to semantics and pointing out adjectives.
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@teddks i'm a freedom fighter too, but please, stop to put the same thing again and again in "!" groups. Please! You advised. Ok. Done.
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@teddks it's all about getting things done, being an FOSS purist doesn't help. supporting non-free software doesn't make Canonical the devil
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@findrzkeeprz Did you read the Ubuntu Philosophy?
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@aurium If people ask me the same thing repeatedly, in-group, what other option do I have?
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@teddks as well as forging FOSS and not-so FOSS ideas.
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@teddks I did.
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@teddks the option is to respect all other users in the group. Your repliers will follow you if they are intelligent.
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@pravus that's why free software hackers have created linux-libre, a fork of the kernel that removes all proprietary blobs.
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@pravus these are protocols, not software. If you run Gwibber, you are still running 100% free code.
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@pitanga The point was SUPPORT. Not code.
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@findrzkeeprz You haven't if you think that "free" refers to price. See the first sentence under "Free Software" heading: http://ur1.ca/66rq
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@pravus Indeed, but there's a huge difference between supporting closed protocols/formats and supporting non-free software.
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