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@flameeyes Seeing the license doesn't mean understanding that it limits my freedom. But now portage clearly tells me that - and I like it.
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@flameeyes I don't say that. I say “Gentoo does it right, and now more than ever”. http://is.gd/7aMXa
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@flameeyes Last time I talked to them (by email), excluding EULAs by default was the last missing piece. So their page only needs an update.
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@flameeyes I think teddks should simply update his data.
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@arnebab the problem is that half the bigots out there following #FSF as a religion won't update their data… like #Christians and #Evolution
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@flameeyes Maybe my recent post helps them to update :)
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@arnebab good luck with that… At any rate I'm a pragmatist: I prefer improving Free Software by *writing* and making it *better* ;)
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@arnebab advocates are only helpful when they don't ignore the real world. Debian lost to Ubuntu because of their “pureness” advocates.
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@flameeyes but debian provides a great base for less “pure” distributions, because free software allows that.
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@flameeyes Actually I think that most #christians did up-to-date. The only creationist I've ever seen was ridiculled in TV.
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@mpiechotka sigh, I wish that was true, unfortunately there are people like that around here as well :(
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@flameeyes There're #christians who are creationists. There are #atheists who are nihilists. It isn't reason for generalisation.
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@flameeyes or at least loses to unfree software in terms of developement speed. But I'd say one good piece of info should suffice if spread.
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@mpiechotka yeah 140 was definitely the reason ;) to be fair, most #Catholic I know aren't creationists… but again it's too long for this :P
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@mpiechotka @flameeyes althought 140 characters maybe the reason ;) Sadly as most mobile phones can handle 560 chars.
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@arnebab no it's not just development speed the problem. I've sincerely considered stopping developing FS because of the way I'm attacked!
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@flameeyes Is that really supposed to matter? If it makes your feelings hurt *that* much, fix the problem or cover your ears.
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@teddks or you could stop being a troll and try to *do something* for Free Software? Think I'm not doing enough for !FS? If so, FUCK OFF.
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@teddks critics? Your “critics” are just proclaming that's something is “unethical” because it doesn't bias the world around *your* view
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@flameeyes dude, get out of the house more often. Join a Gym, work out some of that pent-up anger. Cooler heads are better for !Gentoo
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@teddks Please read up on what @flameeyes does for !Gentoo http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
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@flameeyes ouch! Please don't stop! (says the selfish user who only contributes an ebuild a month or so, because he's got too many projects)
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@flameeyes Debian didn't lose to Ubuntu - Ubuntu is based on Debian, and Debian is incredibly active and popular on its own.
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@flameeyes Please don't - if everyone stopped doing things because they were attacked, no one would ever do anything.
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@candrews true, but given I do !FS mostly because I trust the ideals, being attacked as being against FS in the first place doesn't help…
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@flameeyes I agree - I contribute for the same reason. I'm saying don't give up because of a couple of idiots. Someday, they'll get it.
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@teddks: it's way better to have someone screaming FUCK OFF and doing a good working than to have someone only screaming...
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@sebasmagri Equating anything I've said to what @flameeyes has been spewing is a stance only an illiterate would take.
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@teddks here isn't the right place for effective discussions - too little space
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@teddks but flamewar is, and this is one.
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@sebasmagri Yes, you are stating we are arguing on the same level. That's not the case.
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@teddks no.. We just need to remember to stop bickering before it gets nasty - and try to get it back to being constructive
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@teddks or just stop, when the other doesn't discuss friendly.
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@sebasmagri true, until it's someone's leg =)
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@wgreenhouse you just opened my eyes… emacs-identicamod? :D I have to try that!
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@wgreenhouse That's why its so ironic when people in the !gentoo community try to stifle debate.
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@wgreenhouse +1 As it comes to my mind. Is there other distro where there are 3 package managers (I do not mean front-ends) ;) !gentoo
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@flameeyes it's nice, talk to @gabrielsaldana about it sometime
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@mpiechotka and a fourth if you count Sabayon and their equo/entropy package manager, which is portage and !gentoo related
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*sung to 'misogynistic' by @robmyers* point out why this or that is good or not for free software, but it shouldn't-always- become personal.
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@teddks If you want to help improving !Gentoo licensing handling, please check /usr/portage/profiles/license_groups http://is.gd/7cqeH
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