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Honest climate change question: Why isn't "have fewer babies" at the top of everyone's list as a long term solution?
Wednesday, 04-Feb-09 00:32:58 UTC from web- Hippy Steve likes this.
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@blizzard Because having babies is a contest! The one with the most wins!
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@blizzard Got to continually increase the pool of consumers in rich countries and cheap labour in poor countries.
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@blizzard there's no socially acceptable rationalization for it. http://ur1.ca/1d7z is a very comprehensive take
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@blizzard Heaven know what might happen to the economy if we stopped making growth our no.1 priority. We'd be in a recession or something.
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@blizzard: that's my solution, but my wife doesn't agree.
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@blizzard ♫♫ because ev-er-y sperm is sacred / ev-er-y sperm is great / if a sperm gets waaaasted, god gets quite i-rate ♫♫
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@mjog Let the heathens spill theirs / on the dusty ground! / God shall make them pay / for each sperm that can't be found
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@teferi good times! :D
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@mjog I think they blew most of the budget for The Meaning of Life on that one sketch
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@jkeating That's bait I'm not taking.
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@mjog mate sperm singing makes my day.
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@blizzard How about less wars? :)
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@blizzard large popl != large climate change impact. US has highest absolute and per-capita CO2 emissions but a fraction the popl. of India
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@blizzard the timeframe we're faced with requires stablization of CO2 by 2020, and 80-90% cut by 2050. "fewer babies" can't achieve this.
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@berrange Not alone, but it certainly has to be part of the picture.
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@blizzard developed countries throw away a horrifically high percentage (30-50%) of all food produced for their needs http://ur1.ca/1dlb
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@blizzard as long as there is such a level of flagrant food wastage, I find it hard to consider population control as a relevant priority
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@berrange It's not just about food, it's about energy impact as well. Food is only one consideration.
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@blizzard very true, but population control can't reduce impact of energy in the timeframe required to prevent serious climate change
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@berrange Any particular item by itself isn't enough to reduce the impact, but together they can make a difference.
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@berrange We're certainly talking about the 20-40 year time horizon here, but that's still within scope in my mind.