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  1. Gregg H Gregg H StatusNet , Identi.ca

    !identica !sn It'd be nice if notices were editable for a short time after posting. Let's say for 1 hour. Important as char limits extend.

    Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 00:22:34 UTC from web at Earth
    • jake todd jake todd Identi.ca

      @greggish that is one of the most useless ideas for !identica since the char limit extension #limit140

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 00:26:44 UTC
    • Gregg H Gregg H jake todd

      @dread "Important as char limits extend." http://status.net/2010/02/15/identi-ca-character-limit-results

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 00:28:48 UTC
    • jake todd jake todd

      @greggish just because it was implemented doesn't mean it's not dumb #limit140

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 00:30:59 UTC
    • Dave Hall Dave Hall StatusNet , Identi.ca

      @greggish great idea! then the dog house #buzz trick can also work on !identica / !sn. http://is.gd/8xHM3

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 00:36:32 UTC
    • Gregg H Gregg H Dave Hall

      @skwashd "last edited at ..:.." That devious #buzz trick works on just about every forum too. But you don't see them all closing down.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 00:41:52 UTC
    • Andy C Andy C

      @greggish No. It's microblogging. It's spontaneous. We are not writing fucking essays or literature here. The odd typo is inevitable and OK.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 09:42:32 UTC
    • Gregg H Gregg H StatusNet , Andy C

      @andyc Microblogging shmicroblogging. If !sn supports unlimited char length (it does) & people run these servers, editing becomes necessary.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 09:45:35 UTC
    • Dave Hall Dave Hall

      @greggish nothing stopping you running your own statusnet server with unlimited characters & writing a patch to support editing

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 09:51:28 UTC
    • Gregg H Gregg H StatusNet , Evan Prodromou , Dave Hall

      @skwashd Actually according to @evan's speech notice immutability is core part of how offline distribution daemons & cache work on !sn now.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 09:56:09 UTC
    • Gregg H Gregg H

      @greggish So writing a patch might not even be possible.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 09:57:40 UTC
    • Deirdre Deirdre

      @greggish Have you seen http://status.net/wiki/Ostatus & http://status.net/wiki/OMB_over_PuSH ? If the subscriber's server has to cache &...

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 10:00:49 UTC
    • Deirdre Deirdre

      ...distribute notices, that might make it harder to recall them for editing? (That's my understanding. Someone please correct if wrong.)

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 10:01:38 UTC
    • Deirdre Deirdre Deirdre

      @120new "Recall" was a bad choice of words. Makes it sound like someone is going to gather them all up and change the text by hand.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 10:09:02 UTC
    • Gregg H Gregg H Deirdre

      @120new It may be that editing is unworkable on a federated system. I'm just asking the question. Longer char limits make this an issue.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 10:11:16 UTC
    • Deirdre Deirdre

      @greggish It's certainly a fair question, so good on you for asking it.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 10:12:02 UTC
    • Deirdre Deirdre Andy C

      @andyc I didn't know it was possible to recall emails. That's bad knowledge for me. I usually want to edit EVERY email afterwards.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 10:27:45 UTC
    • Dave Cridland Dave Cridland Deirdre

      @120new Only in closed systems, like a single Exchange. Amazingly, people want to standardize it for the Internet.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 10:28:40 UTC
    • Andy C Andy C Deirdre

      @120new My 'recall' dent was a piss take of all those idiots who use Outlook and try and almost always fails to 'recall' an email message.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 10:29:03 UTC
    • Deirdre Deirdre Dave Cridland

      @dwd Okay. Thanks. I'll stop thinking about it.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 10:29:48 UTC
    • Dave Cridland Dave Cridland Deirdre

      @120new The amusing thing is that cross-system recalls would serve to highlight that something was wrong with the original mail.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 10:30:13 UTC
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    • Andy C Andy C Dave Cridland

      @dwd Yeah it's normally a merchant banker telling his mates he 'pulled a cracker last night' that he mistakenly sent to 'bankers-europe'.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 10:40:33 UTC
    • Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou

      @greggish editing can work in a federated system, especially with OStatus. It's just not something we're designing around.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 11:35:40 UTC
    • Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou Dave Cridland

      @dwd ISTR that NNTP has some kind of distributed deletion mechanism.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 11:37:36 UTC
    • Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou

      @greggish I'm interested to see how effective that would be. If most readers see your notice in <1m, what does 1h of editing get you?

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 11:40:47 UTC
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    • Dave Cridland Dave Cridland Evan Prodromou

      @evan The Cancel, yes. But, IIRC, that affects removal from a feed, rather than removal from your personal mailbox or archive.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 11:42:20 UTC
    • Ralph Meijer Ralph Meijer Evan Prodromou , Dave Cridland

      @evan @dwd as we use pubsub nodes for exchanging stuff, we simply do node deletions (w/ redirect if needed)

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 11:42:41 UTC
    • Gregg H Gregg H StatusNet , Evan Prodromou

      @evan Good point. But, new features bring new use cases. Large limit !SN sites may have more forum-like discovery of conversations over time

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 17:57:03 UTC
    • foonetic (lnxwalt140) foonetic (lnxwalt140)

      @greggish I think smaller-limit sites (140-300 char) won't need editing. Longer-limit sites would have fewer, longer msgs and editing helps.

      Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 18:39:04 UTC

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