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Open source: dangerous to computing education? (opensource.com) http://lwn.net/Articles/374675/rss
Wednesday, 17-Feb-10 01:40:46 UTC from api-
CS professor argues #FLOSS is bad for CS education; my experience shows contrary: ur1.ca/mliz Remembering why dropped out of PhD program.
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@bkuhn There’s been sexism scandals outside the FOSS movement as well, ex. this: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/10/22/1232225/
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@bkuhn Disagree with your claim that diversity problem not specific to FOSS; we have <1% women, CS generally has ~20% - that would be great!
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@bkuhn i think his point was that lack of diversity is far worse in FLOSS, not unique to it. you didn't address that very well !geekfeminism
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@pfctdayelise @chrisball you could be right that we have it somewhat worse, but it's still a bit of a pot-kettle-black situation.
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@bkuhn I think "somewhat worse" is a huge understatement, because the statistics I've seen have us ~20x worse than CS. We should admit it.
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@bkuhn The FLOSSPOLS report is the first evidence that comes to mind -- it claims 28% women in industry, 1.5% FOSS = 19x difference.
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@chrisball, I can't argue if you are indeed right that statistically valid survey show that. But many of us are working on it, too.
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@bkuhn My motivation for saying this: I think one way to improve is to first be clear about finding our status quo totally unacceptable.
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@chrisball, I agree completely the status quo on sexism issues is unacceptable. I think it is unacceptable in FLOSS world & traditional CS.
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@bkuhn It's just a tactical disagreement, then; I think many people already look for an excuse not to fix this, and equivocating our [..1/2]
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@bkuhn [2/2] position with CS makes it sound like we're already doing everything our industry has thought of that might help; plainly false.
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@bkuhn I worry about discouraging future developers who may be interested initially as a good career move - it may work against diversity.
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@chrisball Since we can't enjoy a cup of coffee together... Can you write about your suggestions to improve diversity on FOSS? Need help ;-)
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@carocr Hm, I wrote up a bunch of notes for the Libreplanet panel.. am happy to mail you those. Which email address should I use?
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@chrisball Thanks! I've sent you my e-mail address using private message
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