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  1. Luke Slater Luke Slater

    Hypochondria is about the only thing you should treat with Homeopathy

    Friday, 19-Feb-10 11:32:08 UTC from web at Cambridge, England, United Kingdom
    • Felix Pleşoianu, David Haberthür (mov and David Marsden like this.
    • David Marsden David Marsden

      @reality: what makes you say that? Or is that a joke?

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:17:04 UTC
    • rpcutts rpcutts David Marsden

      @davidmarsden because it consists of drinking expensive water?

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:18:54 UTC
    • David Marsden David Marsden

      @reality: ah, ok. I don't get it, though :-(

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:20:35 UTC
    • David Marsden David Marsden rpcutts

      @rpcutts: eh?

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:22:28 UTC
    • Luke Slater Luke Slater David Marsden

      @davidmarsden about the homeopathy? It was a joke :)

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:23:13 UTC
    • David Marsden David Marsden

      @reality: so you're talking about the placebo effect? And the quality of the therapist-patient relationship? Same with many medicines.

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:26:12 UTC
    • Luke Slater Luke Slater David Marsden

      @davidmarsden People with Hypochondria make up illnesses that aren't there, and because Homeopathy is... Nothing... Nothing treats nothing!

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:27:12 UTC
    • Luke Slater Luke Slater David Marsden

      @davidmarsden Uh, I was just making fun of the absurdity of Homeopathy but that works too :)

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:27:23 UTC
    • David Marsden David Marsden

      @reality: plus, I would say that hypochondriacs are expressing that something really is wrong. Just not what they say it is.

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:29:13 UTC
    • rpcutts rpcutts David Marsden

      @davidmarsden Homeopathy, drugs diluted into oblivion. No more worth than a placebo sugar pill.

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:30:16 UTC
    • Luke Slater Luke Slater David Marsden

      @davidmarsden you're reading into it too much :( now I feel bad for insulting hypochondriacs...

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:31:14 UTC
    • Luke Slater Luke Slater David Marsden

      @davidmarsden but there are so many others, what about Peter Mandelson? I would like to punch him in the face...

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:32:52 UTC
    • David Marsden David Marsden

      @reality is what you make it. If you believe that it works then it probably will. If you don't then it probably won't.

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:34:23 UTC
    • Luke Slater Luke Slater David Marsden

      @davidmarsden the placebo effect only goes so far. Plus I'm going to take the medicine with scientific grounding every time.

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:36:05 UTC
    • David Marsden David Marsden rpcutts

      @rpcutts: Sorry, I thought you were still banging on about lack of pedestrianised access around Malta. Placebos can be very effective.

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:36:44 UTC
    • David Marsden David Marsden

      @reality: lots of placebos are more effective than "scientific" medicines. Big Pharma is not science-based, but money making machine.

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:41:11 UTC
    • David Marsden David Marsden

      @reality: And I'm going to take whatever works for me and makes me feel better.

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:41:18 UTC
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      CiaranG CiaranG rpcutts

      @rpcutts That comparison is unfair on sugar pills #cupoftea

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:43:02 UTC
    • Luke Slater Luke Slater David Marsden

      @davidmarsden depends on how you're using the word placebo. i.e. No active ingredient?

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:43:40 UTC
    • Luke Slater Luke Slater David Marsden

      @davidmarsden http://2tu.us/1iaq not as simple as what makes you feel better. lack of regulation and shunning real medication is dangerous

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:46:17 UTC
    • David Marsden David Marsden

      @reality: that's irrelevant. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8952349

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:47:02 UTC
    • rpcutts rpcutts David Marsden

      @davidmarsden indeed, Edzard Ernst said it best.

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:47:14 UTC
    • rpcutts rpcutts

      "My plea is simply for honesty. Let people buy what they want, but tell them the truth about what they are buying."

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:47:58 UTC
    • rpcutts rpcutts

      "The argument that this information is not relevant or important for customers is quite simply ridiculous" - Edzard Ernst

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:48:24 UTC
    • Dave Cridland Dave Cridland CiaranG

      @ciarang Sugar pills at least actually contain sugar.

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:48:42 UTC
    • rpcutts rpcutts

      "These treatments are biologically implausible and the clinical tests have shown they don't do anything at all in human beings."

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:52:54 UTC
    • David Marsden David Marsden

      @reality: also, do you know anything about the history of medicine? What once had 'scientific' grounding is now 'unscientific' e.g. lobotomy

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:53:55 UTC
    • David Marsden David Marsden

      @reality: I'm not advocating homeopathy. But I do think you should take scientific medicine with a pinch of salt (or a sugar pill), too.

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:55:24 UTC
    • Luke Slater Luke Slater David Marsden

      @davidmarsden Yes, and all science is just theory placed to observation. I'm not saying that the placebo effect holds no water (ha) ...

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:56:39 UTC
    • Luke Slater Luke Slater David Marsden

      @davidmarsden but there's only so far it can go. Plus as I previously mentioned there is a point at which this stuff gets dangerous

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 12:57:47 UTC
    • Luke Slater Luke Slater David Marsden

      @davidmarsden and I agree that developed medicines from big pharma aren't always the answer, since it's money driven.

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 13:00:04 UTC
    • David Marsden David Marsden

      I mean, a spoonful of sugar.

      Friday, 19-Feb-10 13:20:09 UTC

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