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Okay, I'm increasingly irritated with the FSF equating "free software" with some kind of ethical stance.
Tuesday, 23-Feb-10 10:25:18 UTC from xmpp-
@dwd welcome to the club
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@dwd yes its like the Richard Stallman religion. ;-)
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@ff I mean, it did always grate on me, I'm not a new member. But the FSF soliciting cash with the tag-line "Support Freedom" really annoys.
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@dwd have you ever heard RMS lecture^H preach about it?...
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@brightbyte Even endured him singing. Don't get me wrong, I really like OSS, I just don't see what's ethical about it.
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@dwd Okay, I do see that singing and dancing about "Free Software", then dual-licensing, is hypocrisy. But that's different.
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@dwd well it may be ethical, but it should be a choice not some sort of moral obligation as meant by the FSF
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@ff Ethics is moral philosophy - software licensing has nothing to do with ethics.
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@ff Of course, violating licensing in fact or in intent is a moral issue. I'd even accept that "fork and close" of BSD is a moral issue.
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@dwd if you release under BSD either you know the risk of fork and close or you are a fool, imho morality comes second in these cases
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@dwd Interesting take. Care to list all the other ways in which we interact with others where we leave ethics and morality at the door?
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@greggish I'm not saying there's no ethics involved. I'm saying that claiming that the GPL is more ethical is bullshit.
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@greggish I put it better earlier - equating "free software" with "ethical" is bullshit.
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@dwd "If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution." --Emma Goldman (kinda... http://ur1.ca/n81p)
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i like "The free expression of the hopes and aspirations of a people is the greatest and only safety in a sane society."
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@evan "If I can't have a revolution, what is there to dance about?" -- Albert Meltzer
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@greggish All I know is my mistress never talks of either & she's lots more fun than you.
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