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Gah! So much wrongness in one short article. How do they manage it!? http://bit.ly/96N3Zf
Friday, 19-Mar-10 14:10:55 UTC from twirssi-
@popey I don't understand that article, because obviously bikesheds are blue.
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@popey They seem really upset. Canonical should give them their money back.
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@dwd ROTFL
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@jwildeboer Makes me wonder if closed-source is almost more democratic, in some senses.
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@dwd its simple. Ubuntu is company driven community. So ultimately company decides.
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@jwildeboer: same with other communities with corporate sponsorship
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@kanarip correct JBoss is more company driven community IMHO. MySQL also in this camp.
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@jwildeboer I am just surprised that @jonobacon hasn't been all over this. Canonical seem geniuinely surprised by the unrest over the issue.
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@dwd The key question is I think ... what could anybody do if Mark decides that this is the right look of Ubuntu http://is.gd/aOKzB ?
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@kanarip Fedora *is* sponsored by Red Hat, right?
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@fabsh criticising Ubuntu has long been painted as coming from "the others" - now that its internal, they are surprised ;-)
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@jwildeboer Actually I was thinking Fedora Project / Red Hat
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@fabsh Yes, and that's exactly my point ;-)
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@mcepl Fork. That's the point of open-source, if you don't like it, you can damn well do it yourself.
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@kanarip my point is not about money. It about processes.
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@jwildeboer I am not so sure. It seems to me the people within are afraid to speak up in a lot of cases....
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@jwildeboer Same thing still applies to !fedora and !redhat
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@kanarip does RHT use its money to "dictate" Fedora direction in your experience?
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@jwildeboer But you are correct. Criticising Ubuntu makes you a pariah very fast. There seems to be little effort to even argue the points.
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@fabsh that would even be more worrisome.
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@kanarip But somehow they manage not to screw up so bad. They screw up in other places, but nothing so jarring.
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@jwildeboer Think trademark, number of seats on the board, procedures and processes skipped or surpassed by teams at RH
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@kanarip Also, the last time this happened with Fedora, it was fixed in two days or so. Fedora seems to listen a lot more.
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@fabsh at least explains the "opportunisitic dev" naming ;-)
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@fabsh True, they get away with it frequently ;-)
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@kanarip the decision process in Fedora however is different from Ubuntu IMHO. Would you disagree?
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@jwildeboer That all depends on what the decision is about.
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@jwildeboer If they were opportunistic, they'd changed it back already.
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@fabsh opportunistic to Mark Shuttleworth only, I mean ofcourse ;-) the "Yes, Mark" way ;-)
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@jwildeboer Yeah. I understand. They don't seem to care much about consequences either, which does fit.
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"(u)buntu (b)uttons (u)nusually (n)asty (t)o (u)sers"
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At #libreplanet. If you don't know what I look like, I'm probably next to @mattl.
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