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@arnebab we have got ogg-vorbis audio codec since the 90s, a truly competitor to mp3 etc. in my opinion, but to no avail.
Saturday, 20-Mar-10 12:21:37 UTC from web-
@olhe but now firefox is on 30% of the computers, so vorbis is useful for web development and it runs on many audio-players, even on my NDS.
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@arnebab if you have got some time read this: http://is.gd/aRM2N
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@olhe I’m now reading it, but I don't agree with “companies stay away if it's technically inferior”. Being gratis always was a big motivator
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@olhe Now read it, and it has a glaring flaw: it doesn't understand, that Mozilla can't pay licensing fees and still allow changing the code
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@olhe So using h.264 is the same as making part of their code unfree (otherwise they could just take the code from chrome and pay nothing).
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@olhe and that's a battle about control: If h.264 becomes the standard, that means, every browser developer must be big enough to pay for it
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@arnebab sure, but the article shows one big problem: ff will be a legacy browser in the future
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@olhe if on the other hand theora becomes standard, everyone can make a multimedia browser and just rely on free libraries for decoding.
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@olhe sed s
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@olhe sed s/will/might/ - the big ones found an attack vector to try to fight ff into obscurity. Let’s let them run against a wall.
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@osvaldo did you test that yourself with thusnelda (theora 1.1)?
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@arnebab Used ffmpeg2theora, look at an example in http://ur1.ca/l8tt Can you show a practical example of #theora thusnelda X mp4 Need 2 see
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@osvaldo I can show you the results of conversion at the same bitrate. Can you give me an optimal command for encoding to h.264?
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@osvaldo just need to wait for the 4GiB download of the BigBuckBunny 360 uncompressed pngs. http://media.xiph.org/BBB/
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@osvaldo about 3-4 h…
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@osvaldo Speed up: I just use the first 99 pngs.
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@arnebab See this two files http://ur1.ca/qxhn ( #mp4 13.5MB) and http://ur1.ca/qxi5 ( #ogv 19.5MB) and the example in my prev. post.
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@osvaldo for i in {0..9}; do for j in {0..9}; do wget http://media.xiph.org/BBB/BBB-360-png/big_buck_bunny_000$i$j.png; done; done
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@osvaldo do they have the same quality?
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@osvaldo @olhe ♻ @akfoerster: @arnebab note that chrome supports both h.264 and theora
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@osvaldo I can't really see much difference at that bitrate… can you judge which one wins?
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@akfoerster I’ll test it in 2 minutes
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@akfoerster !Konqeror works with ogg !theora video for me, but I either have to set controls="controls" or autostart="autostart"
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@osvaldo the link is part of a script. It only works if you execute the whole line in a bash terminal.
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