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@openuniverse At root it was going to be whether or not FOSS advocates are capable of lying. You said not, at which point I hit the esc key.
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/me is becoming angry at free software fanaticism
Gerard Braad — 吉拉德 likes this. -
@reality That word doesn't mean what you think it does... ;-)
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@robmyers uncritical obsessive behaviour towards something, alienating everything else
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@reality one of them blocked me today; no apparent reason - cascaded search ok, but that is not fed. And fed. search with singlepnt storage?
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@gbraad Maybe you're not Free enough? Oh well, it took them a long time to get them where they are now.
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@reality haven't arrived at this.
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@reality There's plenty of criticism in GNU and free software. But there are targets that are far more deserving of criticism.
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@reality cognitive dissonance is a bitch
Carolina Flores Hine likes this. -
@teddks dont confuse working TOWARDS usability with working AGAINST freedom, the kernel team just has different priorities
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@reality funny how all open source advocates have phd's in psychology. worst kind of ad hominem, net.diagnosis is
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@openuniverse I dunno, there's definitely a huge crowd of unthinking Linux cheerleaders out there.
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@x1101 it's perfectly possible to work towards usability while working against freedom.
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@openuniverse I dunno - both kinds tend to get away with saying things that are blatantly untrue. Hard to say which is worse at that point.
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@rxp no it's not. everyone is wrong about something. i'd rather be wrong about the merits of free software than about the merits of... drm?
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@openuniverse The only reason one is worse than the other, for you, is that you like one of the things being lied about.
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@openuniverse To a neutral, it all smells like bullshit.
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@openuniverse eg, one of my pet peeves is people saying that "Linux filesystems don't need defrag" - and they never get called out on it!
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@frankenspock not lied about- some are mistaken. and it's not just that i like it. one thing is more ethical, even if it's not what they say
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@openuniverse Well, whatever. As long as we can agree that it's better still to be right about both.
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@frankenspock neutral is an extreme for some people. anything other than neutral is rejected, regardless of truth or merit
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@openuniverse And some are outright lying.
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@openuniverse OK, does "unaligned" make you feel better?
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@openuniverse PS - you're drowning in your own perspective here. I would consider hiring a boat.
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@openuniverse in fact it's based on a 15 year old kernel of truth, from when ext2 had a better allocation strategy than FAT ...
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@openuniverse ...in other words it's been obsolete since NTFS came out. Also, ext* fragments like crazy when you get above 95% or so full
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@frankenspock i don't buy that. why would anyone lie about that?
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@openuniverse guess the thing that bugs me about it is that it's survived thanks to a decade-long game of "uncritical cheerleader telephone"
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@openuniverse I actually have no interest in pursuing this discussion. I like you, but you're tipping your hand as a soldier in a war.
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@openuniverse And I've made it my business to never do business with patriots or priests.
Ravi Pinjala likes this. -
@frankenspock there's a war, but it's fascists against schoolteachers. calling free software advocates soldiers is a pointless stereotype
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@openuniverse I'm saying you won't see past your own biases here, and I won't waste my time. We'll meet again on other subjects, I'm sure.
Gerard Braad — 吉拉德 likes this. -
@openuniverse I didn't say you were wrong, I just said I'm not interested in pursuing the argument, and that you tipped your hand too early.
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