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Does #Apple have some new pointless consumer product coming out? Ppl were queued up at 06:50 this morning at !NYC store, which is near !sflc
Thursday, 24-Jun-10 12:37:11 UTC from web- Osama Khalid likes this.
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@bkuhn maybe the iPhone 4?
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@maddingue, @warp, Oh. The prurient desires ppl seem to have for "brand new tech", #Apple products or otherwise,just seems plain #disturbing
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@bkuhn their products are technically good, but Apple's true power is their mastering of marketing
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@bkuhn I've seen some colleagues become heavy Apple consumers (from zero) in less than 2 years
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@bkuhn I don't think that word means what you think it means. ;-)
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@bkuhn Sure they do. They have different criteria than you. The lack of understanding/empathy for avg. users is a major problem for the FSF.
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@jzb, I'm making an analogy w/ "prurient":ppl seem to have an insatiable lust for shiny new technology; it sometimes seems to blind judgment
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@bkuhn that does seem to be the issue. And sadly the 'status' that goes along with #Apple products seems to contribute as well. #disturbing
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@bkuhn "Blind judgment" assumes ppl are using the same criteria as you - and they're not.
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@bkuhn if it wasn't the case, how could Electronics Arts sell a "new" version of their sport games each year? :)
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@bkuhn i completely agree. my desktop machine is now 9 years old, still works fine with the latest distros
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@jzb,I admit that I honestly don't see a legitimate criterion for "latest-greatest" on day of release. Only reasons: greed, lust, & jealousy
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@bkuhn you forgot: drinking the Kool-Aid
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@mase, Sadly,my desktop died at 9 years old, but my laptop is now 7 years old & I'll prob. upgrade in 1 yr to a model that's 5 years old. :)
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@bkuhn Have you ever heard of this basic human function which is called "curiosity"? Just stop seeing only the negative side of things. :-)
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@bkuhn curiosity, wonder, etc. As long as you have contempt for avg. users, you have no hope of reaching them.
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@ovidius, curiosity is "why are these people standing in line" & "I'll go in the store & play w/ it w/out buying", not *must* *buy* *today*!
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@bkuhn But what if *I* buy the newest thing, and then donate my perfectly good older thing to some charity, so that someone else can use it?
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@bkuhn I'm disappointed to see you looking at it that way. Is there nothing you get excited about, and want as soon as available?
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@jzb,I don't have contempt for them. I admit I feel sorry for them. Anyway, ppl standing in line on release day are NOT average, by defn.
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@jzb I do not think they do not understand them. They willing choose to ignore them.
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@bkuhn I'm still using a nokia 1100, but that's largely because of strong preference for phone that is not general-purpose computing device
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@bkuhn This is Old Testament thinking. "Thou shalt not!" "Pleasure is bad!" St. Ignucious would be proud, I suppose... ;-)
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@jzb, Not at my age. In my early 20s,I used to go to movies day they opened. But I grew up. I can wait & do. Patience + discipline is my way
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@bkuhn but also pig-headed resistance for expensive new tech, as making do with the obsolete was a personal pride in my youth
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@bkuhn "I feel sorry for them" is worse: You think you're better than those folks. This is why ppl think of FOSS advocates as arrogant.
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@bkuhn Now who's being prurient? ;-)
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@jzb, it's a feeling ("feeling sorry"),not a position. It's only arrogance if I allow feeling to control my actions,which I work hard not to
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@bkuhn You're missing the point. The iPhone is about status. Staying at home having sex (usually) doesn't produce status. :)
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@bkuhn dont lie, you wish they were at home writing #FreeSoftware
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@jzb You're really stretching.
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@gomerx, oh, that's true. But what if the people blogged about it after? Does that produce a status symbol? Anyway, I hate status symbols.
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The day isn't far off when Apple produces the iCool. They'll only make 1000, it'll cost $1 million, and it makes you really cool.
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@bkuhn when I have children I have every intention of trying to teach them to program in hopes that the surpass my (very poor) skills
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@bkuhn Actually, I see children exposed to programming less, since modern os blend that away. Sugar labs is not widespread everywhere ...
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@bkuhn OTOH, even a tiny bit of programming could make a big difference in peoples lives, e.g. scripting in the apps they use.
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@bkuhn if they could get laid they wouldn't be standing in line
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@lorddrachenblut I can just imagine the kind of love chain that would be. :-p
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@bkuhn by waiting you sometimes miss the group experience
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@lorddrachenblut, I question the value of a "group experience" when the experience is: "giving in to mass marketing product-buying culture"
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@bkuhn "Sex instead of iPhones". I like it! I'm on board! :D
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@bkuhn my best personal experience is horror movies. On release day they have packed showings and add to the fun for me with others reaction
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@fabsh so the day you got your iPhone you couldn't get laid?
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@lorddrachenblut You bed I did. But I don't use them now so I'm OK with it. ;)
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@lorddrachenblut Or the internet exploding when Ubuntu does a release. Nobody really NEEDS the latest, it's just fun to be in the crowd.
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@fabsh the wording of that makes it sound like your lady wears them as a necklace
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@lorddrachenblut Typo involved. But you also have a very dirty mind, my friend....
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@gomerx in that case if your using bittorent then it is practical to be a part of the crowd
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@fabsh I have the kind of mind that has zoned the sewer as a swimming pool
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