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Test via Nokia 770. This will make me happy...
Monday, 07-Jul-08 03:33:44 UTC from web-
@kenzoid IM or Web?
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@evan XULRunner++ *grin*
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@evan IM ... Google chat client. Worked like a charm.
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@evan Laura (@pistachio in twitter) has some valid questions about the CC licence you've chosen for content in indenti.ca
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@evan I'm mixing desktop web and N770 right now, so it may look odd on backend.
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@vruz it's a good thing she's sticking with Twitter, then, where no commercial companies re-use her posts! Oh, wait...
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@evan whats your fave identica "verb" ? is there an official one yet?
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@jonflow I've heard "dent", "deet", "tic" and "id". I tried to give my unofficial imprimatur to "dent", but it was totally ignored.
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@evan i like dent
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@evan I'm a big dent fan. :)
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I'm flattered that @evan is following me on identi.ca.
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@evan: that's because "tic" is better :)
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@evan I think she's okay with reuse, she's not okay with explicit resale though. (as per this particular CC variant you've chosen)
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@evan Just call them "posts". Our terminology should be as interoperable as our OMG implementations.
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@evan Or "notices", which is right there in the URL.
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@evan How about at a bookmarklet for ur1.ca?
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@evan I think the concerns are valid, there's many other CC licences, yet you've chosen this one in particular
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@mattack I've got my mouse hovering over "unsubscribe", so don't make me mad
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@evan I like "dent" and "tic". Unrelated; any idea if FF will pick up identi.ca as "official"?
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@evan haha!
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@evan I realize federation makes it more complicated, but it would be way cool...
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@vruz yes, here's why: http://laconi.ca/PITS/00055
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@evan I am kind of partial to "dent" myself, it's a strong choice by base-definition alone..so hope that goes your (our) way hah
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@vruz Twitter data is treated almost exactly like CC-by data, except that Twitter gets credit -- not you.
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@evan Isn't managing all these CC flavours the same sort of rathole as DRM?
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@sneakums yeah, it's going to suck.
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@evan that pretty much clarifies it, thank you Evan
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@evan the CC licensing is pretty involved. I didn't know this. Thank you for the explanation.
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@vruz I think it boils down to, "Everyone can use your notices like Control Yourself, Inc. does." Which seems fair to me.
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@evan this is interesting what you say about Twitter data
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@evan a problem with CC 3 is that you give express permission to adapt deets, it's ok for cultural works, but less so for public statements
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@evan not sure what are Laura's concerns, but I would personally be more concerned about other people twisting words 'adapting' content
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@evan that's cool if that's what you understand, but that's not exactly what the legal letter says (complicated to discuss here)
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@vruz "You must... provide... a credit identifying the use of the Work in the Adaptation". You have to say if you make changes.
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@vruz also "You may not implicitly or explicitly assert or imply any connection with, sponsorship or endorsement by the Original Author"
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@evan of course run their own servers, just thinking out loud in hope that identi.ca prospers as well
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