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♺ @cyanogen: RT @androinica: Motorola says if you want to flash custom ROM’s, buy from another company http://goo.gl/fb/kDJEG !android
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Discovered February #Motorola blog where they show disdain for !Android / !Linux users. My response blog: http://ur1.ca/0oqer (HT @mtrausch)
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@bkuhn I do own a Motorola Milestone. The whole situation is just stupid because Droid (Milestone is the European version) is not signed.
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@quintasan, by not signed, you mean "not crypto locked down"? If it's not, were you able to install a modified Linux onto the device?
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@bkuhn Motorola Droid is not crypto locked. But the Motorola Milestone is, those are esentially identical phones but Milestone is locked
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@quintasan, I understand now. Thanks for clarification. I very much appreciate it. Crypto-lock-down is #disturbing, but #GPLv2 compliant.
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@bkuhn about the source distrubution, if they do not supply whole license files and those scripts they are breaking the license or not?
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@bkuhn the box has no license but the booklet says where I get information about the way in which motorola got the copy of source code
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@bkuhn as for scripts, CD in box supplies no scripts, and the booting scripts inside the phone are signed too as far as I'm concerned
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@bkuhn "Have you exercised the offer for source in box?" Could you rephrase it? I don't know that expression :S
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@bkuhn it says you have to send a letter or go to opensource.motorola.com, but I have found that the whole license is available in phone
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@bkuhn Ironically, the box says "The phone without compromise." :O
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@bkuhn I'm still rocking my FreeRunner, "dead phone" as it is. Ironic point: my backup phone is a Moto C155; one of the OsmoconBB targets
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@bkuhn right on.
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It's confirmed: #Motorola Droid-X !android / !linux device is crypto-locked-down: ur1.ca/0pis5 Boycott Motorola & buy #Google N1 instead!
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@bkuhn Except they are stopping sales of the N1 now.... :(
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@bkuhn the Nexus one got kin'd.
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@fabsh, I'd advise people to buy used N1's & ADP1's until ∃ no more. When there really are no more, we'll have to figure out what to do next
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@bkuhn They will still be selling them as dev phones, I think (unlocked). Basically the ADP3.
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@bkuhn ADP1 = HTC Dream, ADP2 = HTC Magic. BTW I agree, I will only buy ADPs from now on I think. Updates directly from Google rock!
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@bkuhn I know I should. Not sure if it's for me yet but I *WILL* have to check it out, I agree!
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@fabsh: What does ADP stand for? Android Development Phone maybe?
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@jasonriedy t-mobile's are, at least
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@jasonriedy their no-subsidy, no-contract plans are about $20/mo cheaper
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@teferi Um, what about a network that *exists*? ;) (I can only use VZW...)
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@jasonriedy can't say I know anything about vzw's plans, haven't used them in 5+ years
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@teferi T-Mobile seems sensible. sigh. Too bad they don't exist. (Correlation != causation, but...)
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@jasonriedy well, they work well up and down the northeast corridor, which is mostly what I need :)
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@jasonriedy, getting an !android phone that truly gives you software freedom (i.e., a developer phone) does end up costing more, it's true.
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@jasonriedy Just get a plan with a free phone and ebay that one...
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@matjan Yep. Exactly.
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@jasonriedy monthly service is no higher with an unsubsidized phone, at least on GSM / umts carriers I've used. pop in sim and off you go.
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♻ @bkuhn It's confirmed: #Motorola Droid-X / linux device is crypto-locked-down: ur1.ca/0pis5 Boycott Motorola & buy #Google N1 instead!
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@fabsh Yeah, Romain Guy confirmed that once it stops selling via the current site, it'll become the ADP3 in all but name.
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@sobotka, from point of view of a permissive-license-preferrer,it *is* working well. The goal of those licenses is *adoption* above all else
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@sobotka, I have no idea. As you know, I'm a proponent of copyleft licenses myself, so I'm certainly the wrong one to ask.
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@bkuhn will e-mail you. you get the permission back by simply accepting the license like anyone else can simply accept the GPLv2
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@bkuhn always wondered who would try that "loophole"
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@mtrausch you have spammed gnome planet =)
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@mtrausch are you Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn)? who's posts upto 2008 are published today on the http://planet.gnome.org/?
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