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1. Bradley M. Kuhn Richard Fontana

   @fontana, I'll only s/this program is free software/this software gives you freedom/g upon direct request of the package's maintainers.

   Wednesday, 28-Jul-10 14:13:38 UTC from web
   • Fabian Scherschel

     @bkuhn says if you want to go to v3 he will change all your header files for you yourself. #GUADEC

     Wednesday, 28-Jul-10 10:40:17 UTC
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   • Fabian Scherschel Richard Fontana

     @fontana LOL. ;)

     Wednesday, 28-Jul-10 12:51:19 UTC
   • Alexandre Oliva Free Software

     @bkuhn I don't like “gives you freedom”. nFS takes away freedoms you already had, whereas !FS respects them

     Wednesday, 28-Jul-10 16:44:48 UTC
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   • Ted Smith Ubuntu users , GNU's Not Unix , Linux , Free Software , Alexandre Oliva

     ♻ @lxoliva @bkuhn I don't like “gives you freedom”. nFS takes away freedoms you already had, whereas !FS respects them !ubuntu !gnu !linux

     Wednesday, 28-Jul-10 17:05:05 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Free Software & Culture Group , Alexandre Oliva

     @lxoliva, I'm not sure I understand. My point is the software licensed !FaiF gives you back the freedom. What's wrong with saying that?

     Thursday, 29-Jul-10 07:09:14 UTC
   • Alexandre Oliva

     @bkuhn what's wrong is the underlying assumption that we don't have it in the 1st place. as D.Adams would put it, FS fails to take it away

     Thursday, 29-Jul-10 12:02:33 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Alexandre Oliva

     @lxoliva, IMO, letting people know that they've been *given* freedom b/c someone thought about their rights is #wonderful thing IMO.

     Thursday, 29-Jul-10 12:11:38 UTC
   • Alexandre Oliva

     @bkuhn I dispute the *given*. that someone decided to *respect* the freedoms, rather than taking them away, is indeed positive

     Thursday, 29-Jul-10 15:20:36 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Alexandre Oliva

     @lxoliva, it is a "given" b/c our legal system today takes away software freedom by default. Unfortunate & #problematic, but it is reality.

     Thursday, 29-Jul-10 15:23:32 UTC
   • Danny Piccirillo John Sullivan

     @bkuhn i agree with @johnsu01, "returned" is good, but give is acceptable if you say gives *back*

     Thursday, 29-Jul-10 15:32:44 UTC
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