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  1. Patrick Haverkamp Patrick Haverkamp Lucy , Matt Lee , Patrick Haverkamp

    RT @alphakamp @lucy why is CC NC not 'free' @mattl ??

    Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:46:36 UTC from Choqok
    • Manu Ullas Manu Ullas

      @alphakamp What if somebody confused NC with NO Constraints? :D !cc

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:46:47 UTC
    • Manu Ullas Manu Ullas Lucy

      @alphakamp is right @lucy

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:48:05 UTC
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      Josh Wood Josh Wood

      @alphakamp Because it denies the freedom of commercial re-use. "You can use this, so long as it doesn't materially benefit you."

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:48:37 UTC
    • Matt Lee Matt Lee Lucy , Manu Ullas

      @mu, @lucy, @alphakamp -- It's easy to remember -- NC is not cool and SA is so awesome.

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:49:17 UTC
      Sarven Capadisli, X11R5 and learnnotto and 3 others like this.
    • Dan Scott Dan Scott Lucy , Matt Lee

      @alphakamp @lucy @mattl CC with the Non-Commercial clause is a restriction on freedom

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:49:30 UTC
    • Matt Lee Matt Lee Lucy , Manu Ullas

      @mu, @lucy, @alphakamp -- btw, people who use free licenses sometimes and non-free licenses other times, should be called CC-BI.

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:49:38 UTC
      Evan Prodromou, Felix Pleşoianu, Matthew Davidson and Bruce Cowan like this.
    • Manu Ullas Manu Ullas Matt Lee

      @mattl Yes, they go both ways. :D

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:50:06 UTC
    • Lucy Lucy Manu Ullas

      @mu In what way? NC means that not everyone can use, remix and redistribute it.

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:50:54 UTC
    • Manu Ullas Manu Ullas Lucy

      Well @lucy you can. You just can't make any money off it. Which would limit it's usefulness... yes, I'm slowly coming around. :D

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:52:13 UTC
    • Lucy Lucy Matt Lee

      @mattl I think different licenses are appropriate for different times. Nothing against NC, but it's not free + so not as 'good'.

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:52:56 UTC
    • Manu Ullas Manu Ullas Lucy

      @lucy I suppose you could call it the "free, but just like free money - not free" license. :D

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:53:13 UTC
    • fauno fauno Lucy

      @lucy http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4873370/RIP__A_Remix_Manifesto-Xvid

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:54:04 UTC
    • Lucy Lucy Manu Ullas

      @mu It means it can't be used for 'commercial purposes', it's more wide ranging than not being able to sell it.

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:54:06 UTC
    • Manu Ullas Manu Ullas Lucy

      @lucy I think ND = No Derivatives is the constraint on remixes. And SA is the #GPL of !cc. Forces you to redistribute with the same license.

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:54:36 UTC
    • Lucy Lucy fauno

      @fauno Cool :)

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:56:05 UTC
    • Manu Ullas Manu Ullas Lucy

      @lucy Ah, yes, the term "commercial" could apply to anything where... even for a charity event. I agree.

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:56:37 UTC
    • Lucy Lucy Manu Ullas

      @mu Yes, that's right. This is NC - non commercial though

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:56:48 UTC
    • Lucy Lucy Manu Ullas

      @mu Yes, that's part of the problem. It's too vague :) But it's a good way for people to get into CC if they're worried though.

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 14:58:54 UTC
    • Manu Ullas Manu Ullas Lucy

      So, @lucy what exactly are you looking at? If I may inquire. I may find some good music.

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 15:05:48 UTC
    • Lucy Lucy Manu Ullas

      @mu I was looking at http://www.ripremix.com/, but you could also try http://ratholeradio.org/

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 15:09:05 UTC
    • Manu Ullas Manu Ullas Lucy , Karunya Keshav

      RD @lucy: RIP: A Remix Manifesto a film on (C) in the 20th Century: http://is.gd/NfiT @kuks you might find this handy.

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 15:47:39 UTC
    • Karunya Keshav Karunya Keshav Manu Ullas

      @mu Much appreciated

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 15:51:18 UTC
    • Manu Ullas Manu Ullas Karunya Keshav

      @kuks Even more interesting: http://www.opensourcecinema.org/ #CC #movies #open

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 16:15:57 UTC
    • Karunya Keshav Karunya Keshav Manu Ullas

      @mu Yea, Very interesting. Innovative is the word.

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 16:17:10 UTC
    • Denver Gingerich Denver Gingerich Lucy , fauno , Manu Ullas

      @lucy @fauno @mu You can download RiP: A Remix Manifesto from http://ossguy.com/?p=351 in XviD/MP3 or #Theora/Vorbis. #ripremix

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 18:41:15 UTC
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    • Denver Gingerich Denver Gingerich Lucy , fauno , Manu Ullas

      @lucy @fauno @mu The encodings are fairly official; they're mirrored on http://ripremix.com/ My site doesn't restrict non-US users, though.

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 18:45:44 UTC
    • Manu Ullas Manu Ullas Denver Gingerich

      Thanks @ossguy. I'm nowhere near the US. And I'm too much of a student to be able to afford a donation. No credit card, besides!

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 18:45:45 UTC
    • Lucy Lucy Denver Gingerich

      @ossguy That's awesome, I'm in the UK and downloading now, so thanks :)

      Wednesday, 03-Jun-09 18:56:50 UTC

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