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Unfortunately I can see how folks will interpret this as sour grapes, but I for one am glad for the indictment of the two-party monopoly.
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@mjgiarlo notably absent word from that speech "health" -- and he's a damn doctor too isn't he?
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@mjgiarlo imho the issue isn't so much what the party politicians say when they are running for office, it's what they do when they win
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@mjgiarlo but i agree in principle with the guy, i'll give you that ...
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@edsu He'd probably argue that the word "health" is also missing from the U.S. Constitution and so there's no basis for that federal service
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@edsu I agree that actions are more important. But having only two viable options that are mostly the same is nicht so gut.
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@mjgiarlo that's just it, they're not mostly the same
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@mjgiarlo the actions at least
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@mjgiarlo so do you think al gore (if he won in 2000) would've gone to war in Iraq?
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@edsu Perhaps not, but Dems -have- traditionally been the party of intervention: Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Clinton's adventures in the Balkans, etc.
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@mjgiarlo yeah, but see i don't have a problem with the adventures in the balkans
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@mjgiarlo do you really equate all those wars?
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@edsu I wonder if they weren't -all- huge mistakes, though the adventure in the Balkans hasn't come back to bite us badly (yet?).
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@edsu But the take-home point, for me, is that it's hard to look back and say Gore would have been much better given his party's tendencies.
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@mjgiarlo i guess i live on a different planet than you, have you been asleep for the last 8 years? or have i?
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@mjgiarlo whether the current administration are "real republicans" or not is beside the point -- it's what they call themselves
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@mjgiarlo ok i'll stop harassing you now :-)
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@mjgiarlo mostly because i'm making no sense ... and am getting upset at the thought of gore doing roughly the same thing as bush
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@mjgiarlo Wait, are you suggesting we shouldn't have gotten involved in WWII?
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@edsu Okay, Gore would have been better. :) The neo-cons are just that bad. And Bush's signing statements are a Constitutional nightmare.
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@rsinger Hmm, we shouldn't have gotten involved in WWI. Because we did, and had a hand in creating the conditions that brought about WWII...
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@rsinger ...we were sort of already committed to WWII.
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@mjgiarlo whew, thanks for that, i feel better now :-)
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@mjgiarlo thanks for the brewster TED talk link (http://blog.ted.com/2008/09/brewster_kahle.php)
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@mjgiarlo oh, from december 2007 -- that was before code4libcon! still good stuff
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@rsinger finally fixed the permalinks, had rebuilt the linode
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