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  1. Richard Stallman Political Notes Richard Stallman Political Notes

    Paying people to get sterilized http://ur1.ca/25kdv

    Saturday, 23-Oct-10 06:33:02 UTC from Tricklepost at Cambridge, Massachusetts, United States
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    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić Free Software Foundation , catholic

      @rms is an advocate of forced sterilization (eugenics?), and an advocate of murder (abortion)! Beware !Catholic !fsf http://ur1.ca/25sfs

      Saturday, 23-Oct-10 20:46:33 UTC
    • Craig Andrews Craig Andrews Free Software Foundation , Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic !fsf is only for software and nothing else. @rms's views in other areas are his own and do no reflect !fsf.

      Saturday, 23-Oct-10 20:49:32 UTC
    • Lowe Schmidt Lowe Schmidt Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic Do you have any sources to back up those claims ?

      Saturday, 23-Oct-10 20:50:22 UTC
    • Osama Khalid Osama Khalid Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic @rms has many ideas"But the [fs] is a one-issue movement. Lots of people support the [fs], who have [diff] views on other issues"

      Saturday, 23-Oct-10 20:51:46 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić Lowe Schmidt

      @lschmidt One is linked by Richard Stallman himself above, for others, browse rms.org. Eg. is http://ur1.ca/25sgs

      Saturday, 23-Oct-10 20:52:43 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić Osama Khalid

      @osamak Indeed, but I'm increasingly appalled by his views on other things. The Christian (&other) portion of the community needs to know.

      Saturday, 23-Oct-10 20:59:02 UTC
    • Wojciech Ryrych Wojciech Ryrych Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic that's why I gave up following @rms cuz of his leftist propaganda. I agree with him when it comes to software but to some extent

      Saturday, 23-Oct-10 21:01:08 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić Wojciech Ryrych

      @rrh Don't care about his political stance. For me, he's an accomplice in murder. His software views don't rectify. Ignored this too long.

      Saturday, 23-Oct-10 21:04:29 UTC
    • Kenneth Wayne Foy, Jr Kenneth Wayne Foy, Jr Free Software Foundation , Craig Andrews

      @candrews good point, wish I saw that before keeping politics in this !fsf

      Saturday, 23-Oct-10 21:18:30 UTC
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    • R. R. Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic Over-population *is* a problem (I disagree with sterilization as a solution). Many are pro-choice. The Christians to the lions :P

      Saturday, 23-Oct-10 21:43:08 UTC
    • Luis A. Morán Morales Luis A. Morán Morales Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic You either did not read or completely misread the article @rms linked. The sterilization program cited is voluntary, not forced.

      Saturday, 23-Oct-10 22:00:12 UTC
    • Luis A. Morán Morales Luis A. Morán Morales Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic Is your abortion==murder opinion based on religion (i.e., belief in imaginary friend/dictator/creator) or rational thought?

      Saturday, 23-Oct-10 22:27:21 UTC
    • Luis A. Morán Morales Luis A. Morán Morales Craig Andrews , Luka Marčetić

      @candrews Exactly. @rms's political notes—which I find very informative—are *not* sent to fsf. Neither should refutations. Cc: @lmarcetic

      Saturday, 23-Oct-10 22:47:18 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić R.

      @rw Thank you. I'll remember what you have said. I understand how those who can make such "jokes" can be "pro-choice".

      Saturday, 23-Oct-10 23:40:47 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić Luis A. Morán Morales

      @lamm Both. That's 2 reasons more than you have. Lest ignorance or disinterest count as reasons.

      Saturday, 23-Oct-10 23:42:24 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić Luis A. Morán Morales

      @lamm Voluntary as is burning PC components in search of precious metals. In other words: No, lad, you misunderstood me.

      Saturday, 23-Oct-10 23:43:47 UTC
    • V. V. Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic "There is no Grace, There is no Guilt; This is the Law: Do what thou wilt."

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 01:31:51 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić V.

      @vitruvius John 8:44 et al.

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 01:50:24 UTC
    • V. V. Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic Liber Al vel Legis, III:60

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 02:32:05 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić V.

      @vitruvius So you've said. The above was my comment to that.

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 12:02:55 UTC
    • V. V. Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic My last word on your little smear campaign of RMS, and from your own book: Matthew 7:1-5

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 17:31:13 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić V.

      @vitruvius Wrongdoers love to misinterpret that verse. I'm not smearing anyone. He smeared himself, I'm simply pointing that out.

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 21:36:33 UTC
    • V. V. Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic Wrongdoers?! Such xtian arrogance. Stop being presumptious, smearing others with *your* quaint notions of morality. Know thyself.

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 22:02:33 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić V.

      @vitruvius Tell me, void, is there no morality or is it just that you have firmer moral grounds than me?

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 22:11:51 UTC
    • V. V. Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic Your morality is not mine, and mine is not yours. My advice: work on yourself, stop casting stones at RMS and others. Reasonable?

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 22:15:33 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić V.

      @vitruvius Unreasonable. It is not subjective whether an act is good or evil. (And) judging is another thing.

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 22:28:05 UTC
    • V. V. Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic Not unexpected. It seems to be a flaw of your religion: you are convinced only *you* know the Truth, and you are *never* wrong.

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 22:39:39 UTC
    • V. V. Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic ... At least the *fundamentalist/literalist* segments of your religion, I should say.

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 22:44:06 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić V.

      @vitruvius As opposed to what? Accepting contrary ideas as equally valid like you do? And no, keywords like that don't work on me.

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 22:47:47 UTC
    • V. V. Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic Your approach is moral authoritarianism. You want to prescribe your belief system/morality for everyone, e.g. abortion. I refuse

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 23:04:42 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić V.

      @vitruvius Man, you're advocating murder. No amount of chosen words on your behalf can justify that.

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 23:08:59 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić V.

      @vitruvius Just to be clear, I quoted John 8:44 not for the first sentence (not in judgment of you), but for the others.

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 23:15:15 UTC
    • V. V. Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic I'm advocating no such thing. The fact is, a significant number of people support abortion. That is a statistically valid choice.

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 23:16:30 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić V.

      @vitruvius I thought you advocated abortion. "Statistically valid choice" - that's a new one for me. Amusing

      Sunday, 24-Oct-10 23:43:43 UTC
    • V. V. Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic Abortion is just an example. How many does it take to disagree with you before you allow that the world may not be black/white?

      Monday, 25-Oct-10 02:39:44 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić V.

      @vitruvius You're doing a poor job disproving anything I've said.

      Monday, 25-Oct-10 02:42:11 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić V.

      @vitruvius Contrary to #Obama, there is no middle ground for pro-lifers and abortionists. Murder has no shades of grey, it's pitch black.

      Monday, 25-Oct-10 02:49:07 UTC
    • V. V. Luka Marčetić

      @lmarcetic That's not possible; you are never wrong, remember? :P Enough: we agree to disagree. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhr25XDPFb4

      Monday, 25-Oct-10 03:02:55 UTC
    • Luka Marčetić Luka Marčetić V.

      @vitruvius It's hard to be wrong when trying to argue pro-life. Stop the slaughter!

      Monday, 25-Oct-10 03:13:32 UTC

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