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@chillicampari It's not going to break the software, but it will make bad software.
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@chillicampari I am amused by the tone of the post. Very amused.
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@chillicampari I'll consider your awareness raised, and your knowledge of linguistics lowered by an equal amount.
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@chillicampari If you don't understand linguistics why were you so quick to say this is a good thing? Case in point.
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@chillicampari just updated his profile. Or is it "her"? We'll just use "their" for everyone! The English language no longer matters! Ha ha!
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@chillicampari I don't know, does communicating with people manner? Does anything matter? So deep I forgot we were trying to write software.
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@avery As someone very active in LGBT-based communities, I think it's important think to allow trans users to display themselves as such.
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@avery Tell that to the transgender people I know and love in my life who have to answer to both pronouns due to close-mindedness.
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@chillicampari Do you really consider PREVENTING the use of gender pronouns a discarding of constraints? Black is white, up is down, etc?
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@deadsuperhero Tell that to my friend with Harry Benjamin Syndrome who doesn't want to be exploited to justify abuses of English language.
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@avery What really got me was your bs about "gender trinary", because, you know, those that deviate from norms love to be called "it".
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@deadsuperhero "they"
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Ah, @friendika reminded me... besides "they" we also need to have an option for "it" for profiles that are actually bots. Important stuff.
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@avery Do us a favor and read up on Gender Identity Disorder; read some trans blogs and accounts of personal struggles before you speak up.
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@deadsuperhero I read plenty of trans blogs, here are some of my favorites: http://bit.ly/fkly0r http://bit.ly/gOQBye http://bit.ly/8MjfSr
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@chillicampari Who's going to be parsing the string? Will each plugin need its own implementation? The blog post doesn't even ADDRESS this.
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@avery Then why such an issue over Diaspora devs enabling such a free expression of gender?
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@deadsuperhero Indeed, this is about freedom. It's about the freedom to choose a linguistic gender, which is being subverted.
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@avery I'm a little dumbfounded by that kind of response. That's like taking away Gay Marriage in the name of "The Freedom to Be Straight"
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@deadsuperhero What does a blank gender box DO? You can write gender messages anywhere; you can't specify linguistic gender anywhere.
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@avery wait what? you don't think gender has a place on a /social/ website?
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@avery Sure you can. You can just define more gender variations, as opposed to the antique trinary you seem to be so fond of.
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@deadsuperhero Tell me more about the "antique" English language.
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@seal Absolutely it does. I'm stunned that people are arguing against it.
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@avery The concept of gender trinary, rather than the gender fluidity itself. That is obsolete in a trans-inclusive society.
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@deadsuperhero I am happy to include all kinds of people in my society. That has nothing to do with calling people he, she, or even "sie".
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@avery You realize you're going back and forth on your own stance in this argument, correct? So remind me again why this is A Bad Thing.
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@deadsuperhero I'm not going back and forth on anything. I am steadfast in using profiles to convey useful information.
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@avery How is this not useful, then?
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@deadsuperhero It may be socially useful, in the same way that any blank box is, but it's not technically useful.
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@avery So, you're throwing everything away based on the implementation of something socially useful...on a social network.
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@deadsuperhero What am I throwing away? A user-defined string? They're a dime a dozen, I've got a pile in my truck.
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@avery I mean your news site and support of the platform. I frankly really liked your blog, and you're throwing a fit over one feature.
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@deadsuperhero User-defined string: "my birthday is the day after Christmas". Drop-down menu: December 26
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@deadsuperhero I didn't like the way the development was going. I'm sorry to post about it over a minor issue rather than a big scandal
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@deadsuperhero Actually, my post was poorly written and made this seem more political than it is. I'll rewrite it now. Thanks for talking.
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@avery assumption: you mean linguistic gender. To that I say; a text field reflects reality, English doesn't.
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@seal And I say, when confronted with a blank text field, Americans are struck with an urge to write nonsense in it.
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@avery point, idiots will be idiots.
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@avery FYI, the singular "they" has been in use for over 500 years. It's not some newfangled invention :p
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@avery also reading trans blogs doesn't mean you understand anything about trans-ness
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@avery and why does genderless software have to be bad? or gender-neutral software?
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