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  1. avery avery

    @chillicampari It's not going to break the software, but it will make bad software.

    Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:44:46 UTC from web
    • avery avery Free from Facebook , Diaspora - The Project

      I'm Dropping !Diaspora, This Site Is Now CLOSED! http://bit.ly/fweUUk !facebookfree

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 06:14:14 UTC
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      Ed Fonseca Ed Fonseca

      @chillicampari I am amused by the tone of the post. Very amused.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 06:28:34 UTC
    • avery avery

      @chillicampari I'll consider your awareness raised, and your knowledge of linguistics lowered by an equal amount.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 06:30:29 UTC
    • avery avery

      @chillicampari If you don't understand linguistics why were you so quick to say this is a good thing? Case in point.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:10:51 UTC
    • avery avery

      @chillicampari just updated his profile. Or is it "her"? We'll just use "their" for everyone! The English language no longer matters! Ha ha!

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:14:34 UTC
    • avery avery

      @chillicampari I don't know, does communicating with people manner? Does anything matter? So deep I forgot we were trying to write software.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:19:19 UTC
    • Sean Tilley Sean Tilley

      @avery As someone very active in LGBT-based communities, I think it's important think to allow trans users to display themselves as such.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:25:51 UTC
    • Sean Tilley Sean Tilley

      @avery Tell that to the transgender people I know and love in my life who have to answer to both pronouns due to close-mindedness.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:26:47 UTC
    • avery avery

      @chillicampari Do you really consider PREVENTING the use of gender pronouns a discarding of constraints? Black is white, up is down, etc?

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:26:48 UTC
    • avery avery Sean Tilley

      @deadsuperhero Tell that to my friend with Harry Benjamin Syndrome who doesn't want to be exploited to justify abuses of English language.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:27:54 UTC
    • Sean Tilley Sean Tilley

      @avery What really got me was your bs about "gender trinary", because, you know, those that deviate from norms love to be called "it".

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:32:57 UTC
    • avery avery Sean Tilley

      @deadsuperhero "they"

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:35:15 UTC
    • avery avery macgirvin

      Ah, @friendika reminded me... besides "they" we also need to have an option for "it" for profiles that are actually bots. Important stuff.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:36:39 UTC
    • Sean Tilley Sean Tilley

      @avery Do us a favor and read up on Gender Identity Disorder; read some trans blogs and accounts of personal struggles before you speak up.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:37:30 UTC
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    • avery avery Sean Tilley

      @deadsuperhero I read plenty of trans blogs, here are some of my favorites: http://bit.ly/fkly0r http://bit.ly/gOQBye http://bit.ly/8MjfSr

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:38:56 UTC
    • avery avery

      @chillicampari Who's going to be parsing the string? Will each plugin need its own implementation? The blog post doesn't even ADDRESS this.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:39:58 UTC
    • Sean Tilley Sean Tilley

      @avery Then why such an issue over Diaspora devs enabling such a free expression of gender?

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:41:07 UTC
    • avery avery Sean Tilley

      @deadsuperhero Indeed, this is about freedom. It's about the freedom to choose a linguistic gender, which is being subverted.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:44:17 UTC
    • Sean Tilley Sean Tilley

      @avery I'm a little dumbfounded by that kind of response. That's like taking away Gay Marriage in the name of "The Freedom to Be Straight"

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:46:31 UTC
    • avery avery Sean Tilley

      @deadsuperhero What does a blank gender box DO? You can write gender messages anywhere; you can't specify linguistic gender anywhere.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:48:37 UTC
    • seal seal

      @avery wait what? you don't think gender has a place on a /social/ website?

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:50:20 UTC
    • Sean Tilley Sean Tilley

      @avery Sure you can. You can just define more gender variations, as opposed to the antique trinary you seem to be so fond of.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:50:46 UTC
    • avery avery Sean Tilley

      @deadsuperhero Tell me more about the "antique" English language.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:51:17 UTC
    • avery avery seal

      @seal Absolutely it does. I'm stunned that people are arguing against it.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:51:31 UTC
    • Sean Tilley Sean Tilley

      @avery The concept of gender trinary, rather than the gender fluidity itself. That is obsolete in a trans-inclusive society.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:52:45 UTC
    • Sean Tilley Sean Tilley

      @avery http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_fluid

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:53:53 UTC
    • avery avery Sean Tilley

      @deadsuperhero I am happy to include all kinds of people in my society. That has nothing to do with calling people he, she, or even "sie".

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:54:30 UTC
    • Sean Tilley Sean Tilley

      @avery You realize you're going back and forth on your own stance in this argument, correct? So remind me again why this is A Bad Thing.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:55:18 UTC
    • avery avery Sean Tilley

      @deadsuperhero I'm not going back and forth on anything. I am steadfast in using profiles to convey useful information.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:56:27 UTC
    • Sean Tilley Sean Tilley

      @avery How is this not useful, then?

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:57:17 UTC
    • avery avery Sean Tilley

      @deadsuperhero It may be socially useful, in the same way that any blank box is, but it's not technically useful.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:58:03 UTC
    • Sean Tilley Sean Tilley

      @avery So, you're throwing everything away based on the implementation of something socially useful...on a social network.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:58:55 UTC
    • avery avery Sean Tilley

      @deadsuperhero What am I throwing away? A user-defined string? They're a dime a dozen, I've got a pile in my truck.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 07:59:45 UTC
    • Sean Tilley Sean Tilley

      @avery I mean your news site and support of the platform. I frankly really liked your blog, and you're throwing a fit over one feature.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 08:01:13 UTC
    • avery avery Sean Tilley

      @deadsuperhero User-defined string: "my birthday is the day after Christmas". Drop-down menu: December 26

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 08:01:14 UTC
    • avery avery Sean Tilley

      @deadsuperhero I didn't like the way the development was going. I'm sorry to post about it over a minor issue rather than a big scandal

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 08:02:15 UTC
    • avery avery Sean Tilley

      @deadsuperhero Actually, my post was poorly written and made this seem more political than it is. I'll rewrite it now. Thanks for talking.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 08:04:01 UTC
    • seal seal

      @avery assumption: you mean linguistic gender. To that I say; a text field reflects reality, English doesn't.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 08:16:38 UTC
    • avery avery seal

      @seal And I say, when confronted with a blank text field, Americans are struck with an urge to write nonsense in it.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 08:27:10 UTC
    • seal seal

      @avery point, idiots will be idiots.

      Monday, 29-Nov-10 09:05:48 UTC
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    • Leigh Honeywell Leigh Honeywell

      @avery FYI, the singular "they" has been in use for over 500 years. It's not some newfangled invention :p

      Tuesday, 30-Nov-10 03:40:00 UTC
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    • Neil S. Neil S.

      @avery also reading trans blogs doesn't mean you understand anything about trans-ness

      Friday, 03-Dec-10 19:34:50 UTC
    • Neil S. Neil S.

      @avery and why does genderless software have to be bad? or gender-neutral software?

      Friday, 03-Dec-10 19:36:48 UTC
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