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1. Mark A. Hershberger Alison Chaiken

   "God help any corporation that relies on open source to deliver the goods quickly." http://yhoo.it/fJS5dB (ht @alisonchaiken)

   Monday, 27-Dec-10 04:38:28 UTC from web at Akron, Pennsylvania, United States
   • Alison Chaiken Linux Outlaws Podcast

     @hexmode Villain of the Week for sure. !lo Gets facts about Netscape wrong, for starters.

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 05:07:10 UTC
   • Michael Howell Alison Chaiken

     @alisonchaiken Which ones, besides Netscape not being bought by AOL until long after the 1st browser war (1998).

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 14:47:24 UTC
   • Alison Chaiken Michael Howell

     @notriddle AOL bought Netscape only after it had lost browser war. Opening of source was not AOLs strategy; it was already post-capitulation

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 15:01:09 UTC
   • Mark A. Hershberger Free Software , Alison Chaiken

     @alisonchaiken I was more amused at the outrageousness. I don't buy !oss apologetic that it is the rational choice for business to make $$.

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 16:07:47 UTC
   • Mark A. Hershberger Free Software , Alison Chaiken

     @alisonchaiken I think money can be made it, just not that the !oss pixie dust makes it more likely.

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 16:08:58 UTC
   • Alison Chaiken

     @hexmode Redhat is a Fortune 500 company. They can afford to laugh at PC World.

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 16:21:41 UTC
   • Mark A. Hershberger Alison Chaiken

     @alisonchaiken you must have missed my next 'dent: http://identi.ca/notice/61136307

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 16:29:58 UTC
   • Robin Green

     @hexmode Um both Android and iOS are built on open source foundations. Neither are 100% open source - but nor is Maemo!

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 16:51:42 UTC
   • Mark A. Hershberger Robin Green

     @greenrd: read my next 'dent http://is.gd/jzy3Q

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 16:53:47 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn

     @hexmode,funny part of that article is that it ignores the primary reason #MeeGo is in trouble: a Free Software competitor w/ wide adoption!

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 19:46:54 UTC
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     @bkuhn hope MeeGo not in too much trouble! Maemo/MeeGo is the only open/hackable mobile OS so far

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 19:50:07 UTC
   • Stephen Paul Weber Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn hope MeeGo not in too much trouble! Maemo/MeeGo is the only open/hackable mobile OS so far http://sngpl.ma/t49W0

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 19:50:20 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Android OS , Stephen Paul Weber

     @singpolyma,not sure that's the case. AFAIK, the list of proprietary components needed to run a phone is much longer w/ #MeeGo than !android

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 20:17:40 UTC
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     @bkuhn possible, but Android is rather unhackable. I switched to Maemo/N900 months ago and it was very liberating to run real Debian

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 20:22:08 UTC
   • Stephen Paul Weber Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn possible, but Android is rather unhackable. I switched to Maemo/N900 months ago and it was very liberating to run re… sngpl.ma/t49W1

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 20:22:18 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Android OS , Replicant , Stephen Paul Weber

     @singpolyma, I think it depends on the type of device you have. !Android is more hackable than #MeeGo on many devices. (cf: !Replicant)

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 20:23:16 UTC
   • Eetu Huisman Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn Do you consider it a problem that while the software is (mostly) free, true value of #Android comes from non-free #Google services?

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 20:31:07 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Android OS , Eetu Huisman

     @eh, if it were true, I'd be extremely concerned. But I have a very functional !Android (!Replicant) firmware build w/ no #Google services.

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 20:32:11 UTC
   • Michael Howell Alison Chaiken

     @alisonchaiken I just said that...

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 20:42:36 UTC
   • Eetu Huisman Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn I wasn't aware of #Replicant before your previous post. Unfortunately the hardware support seems to be very limited at this point...

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 20:55:55 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Eetu Huisman

     @eh, but that's not so different from #MeeGo. How many telephone models are currently supported? (not talking about netbook installs).

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 20:56:48 UTC
   • Eetu Huisman Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn I don't think #MeeGo is usable on any phone atm. I like(d) #Maemo and MeeGo because they re-use much of the desktop Linux ecosystem.

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 21:02:13 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Free Software & Culture Group , Android OS , Eetu Huisman

     @eh, so how can #MeeGo be more !FaiF system if it doesn't even run? #Maemo for its part has many more proprietary components than !Android.

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 21:03:25 UTC
   • Eetu Huisman Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn I never claimed #MeeGo was more #FaiF. As a Finnish taxpayer I hope #Nokia gets their act together though ;-)

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 21:18:25 UTC
   • Rui Seabra Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn: how are you guys doing in replicant WRT the binary drivers? sadly living with them ?

     Monday, 27-Dec-10 22:07:02 UTC
   • Blaise Alleyne Free Software & Culture Group , Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn my hesitation with #Replicant is that #Android doesn't have a very !FaiF ecosystem, compared to #Maemo, and it's Linux without GNU.

     Tuesday, 28-Dec-10 21:09:46 UTC
   • Blaise Alleyne Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn though I think you're right about #Android and adoption... I just wish it was realistic to get behind a GNU/Linux mobile OS.

     Tuesday, 28-Dec-10 21:13:27 UTC
   • sazius (moved to status.saz.im) Blaise Alleyne

     @balleyne that is a very good point, it seems that quite a large proportion of #Maemo third-party software is FLOSS

     Tuesday, 28-Dec-10 21:17:17 UTC
   • Blaise Alleyne sazius (moved to status.saz.im)

     @sazius: I think it's partially due to maemo.org, and partially due to the architecture (e.g. choice of programming language)

     Tuesday, 28-Dec-10 21:20:38 UTC
   • Sebastian Krzyszkowiak Stephen Paul Weber

     @singpolyma The only? My Freerunner with SHR and FSO is now sad because of you :P

     Wednesday, 29-Dec-10 18:07:11 UTC