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@bugabundo if i dont walk away smarter or more intelligent, its noise
Friday, 10-Jul-09 23:22:10 UTC from xmpp- Jean-Marc Liotier likes this.
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I am tired of people constantly disrespecting !kubuntu developers by calling us 2nd class citizens. Stop with the bullshit already!!!
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@slackusr well, if they wouldnt frament everything, and just done one distro, it would get all te support and attention and love
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@nixternal I didn't mean it that way.
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@nixternal What I meant was: For us the users, it seems the kubuntu developers and kde packages take a back seat to what's needed by gnome.
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@slackusr heh. that should be `fragment` and `s/done/do/`
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@nixternal The bluetooth bug that's been on kubuntu since intrepid is a good example of that.
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@slackusr how does it seem to take a back seat? We have about 10 active developers busting their asses. You are more than welcome to help us
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@slackusr that's because the bluetooth stack in Linux is utter shit. It sucks in GNOME as much as it does anywhere else. Bluetooth sucks too
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@nixternal The ubuntu guys updated the bluez stack, which broke bluetooth on kde, but it works in gnome.
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@slackusr Wouldn't that make it more difficult for KDE users to use GNOME apps, and vice-versa? Seems a little counter-productive.
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@jacob Not a replacement repo, but a supplemental. That way, when the ubuntu guys break something for kde, you can supersede the change.
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@slackusr Im not certain what that would accomplish
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@slackusr ive never understood why the separate spin to begin with. whats so hard about a single release, like every other distro?
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@slackusr Still seems counterproductive. Why bother fixing it in a KDE-specific repo when it could be fixed in the main?
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@slackusr i dont think any window manager is the future. if anything, well see more come about, rather than merging into one
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@skreech2 The could undo anything that gets changed for gnome and also breaks kde.
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@slackusr one instance, and I still bash mario for doing that, but bluetooth in gnome sucks too. We do have separate repos, just not 4 base
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@slackusr Thats not exactly impossible in a single repo. More collaboration helps not less
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@atoponce While KDE has been making progress, the others are still the same. So I don't see how they could merge outdated features with new.
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@nixternal At least in gnome it works. In fact as a "solution" to the bug they tell you to use the gnome app.
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@skreech2 Like I said before, I agree, but each DE has to be given equal importance for that to work.
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@slackusr holy shit dude, this caused one hell of a advertisement shitstorm on twitter :p
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@nixternal What?
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@nixternal I just saw it. LOL
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@nixternal Its not about the devs number .. Its about the usability, take a look at packagekit as default for !kubuntu its utter shit
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@bigbrovar I have a bluetooth mouse, it can't find itself half the time, it sucks, bluetooth sucks everywhere
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@bigbrovar oh ya, that was a stupid ass move that I gave a huge -1 too, but my vote didn't count I guess
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@nixternal I've actually had quite the opposite experience. Bluetooth mouse was really easy to set up, and my A2DP headset was pair-n-play.
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@nixternal I know u guys are doing a great job... Just wished !kubuntu could work just as well as ubuntu ... Anyway how is the KNR going?
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@bigbrovar I use dual monitor with KDE
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@bigbrovar KNE :) No remix, a full-fledge KDE/Kubuntu Netbook Edition. It is just an embryo now, but hope 2 release karmic preview
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@nixternal how the tool for that in the system settings detects both much monitors just doesn't allow me have an extended monitor
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RD @atoponce amb lets make a coloring book, and then sue kids for unauthorized derivative works http://bash.org/?890929 !CC
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@bigbrovar 9.10 will of course be 4.3, hoping to have a netbook edition preview. as for dual mon, I had to mess with xorg.conf :(
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@bugabundo as i expected, 99% noise
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