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RT @mamadelbosque: @_the_mad_hatter @Emma_A @safeworld4women isn't that freaking awful? Just the US & freaking Somalia.
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@themadhatter Could not find context but if you are surprised at some of the minority company USA keeps then that surprises me.
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@satipera U.S.A. and Somalia are the only members of the United Nations that haven't ratified the 'Rights of the Child' treaty.
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@themadhatter I thought it would be something like that. It does not surprise me in the least.
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@themadhatter I just read the text...as a citizen and as a parent, I hope we *don't* sign it.
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@hedgemage OK, why?
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@themadhatter It's very poorly worded. There are provisions that could be used to force the US to infringe on families' and states' rights.
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@themadhatter It's hard to cover in 140-char blobs... feel free to jabber me: hedgemage@jabber.binaryredneck.net
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@hedgemage You think our negotiators were stupid enough to sign, and your's weren't? What's your logic. 140 chars is good, teaches discipine
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@themadhatter Some parts effect the US in ways different from other nations, because of our constitution's limits on federal government.
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@themadhatter Others, like forced registration of all children, and something eerily like the fairness doctrine, are just plain scary.
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@hedgemage So in other words there are defects in your ancient constitution.
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@themadhatter Censorship and barriers to interracial adoption go on the "scary" list.
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@hedgemage Why is registration scary? We've had it for over a century, no problems. Except for child abusers. The don't like it.
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@hedgemage Re Fairness Doctrine, so you believe that broadcasters shouldn't tell the truth?
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@themadhatter It's been used to take DNA profiles without parental consent, to aid government seizure of childrens' medical records, etc.
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@themadhatter I believe that the government shouldn't get to decide what is true, and silence dissenters.
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@hedgemage What censorship? What 'barriers to interracial adoption'
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@themadhatter The constitution is right: child welfare should not be the purview of federal gov in a country as large and diverse as the US.
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@hedgemage You can get a DNA profile without parental consent anytime. The document is called a search warrant. American courts use them.
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@hedgemage Court orders are also used for medical records, very useful in prosecuting incest cases.
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@hedgemage Why shouldn't it be?
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@themadhatter Article 17 section (e), Article 20 section 3
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@themadhatter Just because something can be used for good, that doesn't mean it won't also be used for evil.
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@hedgemage Sending me the section of the Constitution isn't an answer as to why the constitution is right.
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@hedgemage so because the Constitution could be used for Evil, you shouldn't change it?
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@themadhatter Each state in the US is more like its own nation, from the perspective of outsiders. Different cultures with different needs.
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@themadhatter Search warrants in the US require due process, the DNA seizures in Texas were done without it in the name of "registration"
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@hedgemage So what does that have to do with anything?
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@themadhatter Those weren't references to our constitution but passages in the treaty re: censorship and barriers to interracial adoption.
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@hedgemage And what does the DNA seizures in Texas have to do with the Convention on the Rights of the Child? FYI, I'm a Mormon.
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@hedgemage And why did you reference them, without explaining what the problem with them is?
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@themadhatter The US Constitution was written to prevent abuses of power by denying the government power to begin with...
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@themadhatter ...if they don't have a registry of children, its much harder to apply regulations to children on a national scale.
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@themadhatter it was a direct answer to your question, in the order asked, and had to be within the character limit
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@hedgemage I probably know the U.S. Constitution better than you do, I read it regularly You haven't explained why it would block the treaty
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@hedgemage Why do you need a registry of children?
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@themadhatter Apparently you don't: this treaty would require action on the part of the US government that exceeds its enumerated powers.
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@themadhatter We don't, but the treaty requires one: Article 7 section 1
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@themadhatter Have you read the treaty, or just news reports about it?
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@hedgemage Have a copy open in another Windows.
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@themadhatter The federal government is not empowered to create any child welfare law or education law, to provide medical care, etc.
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@hedgemage So, get the states to do it. If they refuse, cut their funding, or kick them out of the Union.
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@themadhatter That's not constitutional, actually. The feds cannot regulate it AT ALL, nor can they "kick [states] out of the union"
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@themadhatter What rampant human rights violations do you think this treaty will fix, in the US or elsewhere, and how?
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