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  1. Chris Watkins Chris Watkins Creative Commons , Free Software Foundation

    !FSF says: no CC-BY-SA 2.0 for software or documentation, incompatible with GPL (but so's GFDL!) & GFDL (so?) http://tr.im/suEc ????? !CC

    Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 18:37:19 UTC from web
    • Nathan R. Yergler Nathan R. Yergler Creative Commons

      @chriswaterguy !CC licenses are inappropriate for software; suitability for docs inversely proportional to how much you care about GFDL ;).

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 18:48:33 UTC
    • Pedro M. Rosario Barbosa Pedro M. Rosario Barbosa Free Software Foundation

      @chriswaterguy This is one of my few disagreements with the !FSF. The FDL is really a pain in many aspects and CC-BY-SA seems to work for me

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 18:52:29 UTC
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    • Stefano Maffulli Stefano Maffulli

      @chriswaterguy I read that: you cannot mix software GPL with software CC-BY (or docs GFDL with docs CC-BY)

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 18:55:21 UTC
    • Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA Pedro M. Rosario Barbosa

      @prosario2000, ðe FDL was meant for ſoftware documentation in general. Not ðe ſame goals.

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 18:56:13 UTC
    • Zak Greant Zak Greant Stefano Maffulli

      @smaffulli @chriswaterguy Who licenses their software under CC-BY licenses? Thats about as flawed as GPLing your docs.

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 18:56:31 UTC
    • Pedro M. Rosario Barbosa Pedro M. Rosario Barbosa Creative Commons , Free Software Foundation

      @chriswaterguy !FSF is correct,though,that you should use the GPL instead of !CC in the case of software. CC agrees with that.

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 18:57:02 UTC
    • Stefano Maffulli Stefano Maffulli Zak Greant

      @zak I know, but it seems that some people use CC-By for software http://is.gd/1A0fF

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 18:59:03 UTC
    • Paul Cutler Paul Cutler Nathan R. Yergler

      @nyergler: I don't know if your comment about docs is true - I care about the GFDL, but I think CC is better for docs

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 19:05:26 UTC
    • Nathan R. Yergler Nathan R. Yergler Paul Cutler

      @prcutler It was somewhat in jest; if you care, compatibility may matter. I don't care, ergo compat with GFDL non-issue, ergo CC for docs.

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 19:08:03 UTC
    • Pedro M. Rosario Barbosa Pedro M. Rosario Barbosa Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA

      @leandrod yeah, but first, even RMS recommends using FDL for other fields, not just software, and second, the FDL is so messed up ...

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 19:09:09 UTC
    • Pedro M. Rosario Barbosa Pedro M. Rosario Barbosa Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA

      @leandrod that many who write free manuals have completely rejected the FDL and use the GPL instead. W/ the exception of the FSF, no one ...

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 19:10:15 UTC
    • Pedro M. Rosario Barbosa Pedro M. Rosario Barbosa Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA

      @leandrod ... no one really likes the FDL. I hope that the Simpler version (SFDL) will be much better in this respect. http://2tu.us/kfv

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 19:11:24 UTC
    • j1mc j1mc Paul Cutler

      @prcutler I checked, but I can't find if CC-BY-SA 3.0 is GPL compatible. CC-BY-SA 2.0 is not GPL compatible. Bleh. CC for docs ftw, tho.

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 19:13:17 UTC
    • Paul Cutler Paul Cutler j1mc , Shaun McCance

      @j1mc: CC-SA 3.0 passes Debian legal according to @shaunm, that's good enough for me, he'd know

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 19:14:34 UTC
    • Chris Watkins Chris Watkins Zak Greant , Stefano Maffulli

      @zak @smaffulli It's an issue if you take text from docs & put it (as comments) in source code. A developer here thinks that's an issue.

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 19:50:31 UTC
    • Stefano Maffulli Stefano Maffulli

      @chriswaterguy That case to me sounds like copyright zealotism. I doubt a court would ever consider such case in real life. Lawyers?

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 21:16:12 UTC
    • Aaron Williamson Aaron Williamson Stefano Maffulli

      @smaffulli excellent, the feeling is mutual.

      Wednesday, 15-Jul-09 21:40:42 UTC
    • Chris Watkins Chris Watkins Stefano Maffulli

      @smaffulli Agreed, would be zealotry to complain about that, but... (ctd)

      Thursday, 16-Jul-09 16:13:42 UTC
    • Chris Watkins Chris Watkins Creative Commons , Stefano Maffulli

      @smaffulli If CC-BY-SA text in GPL code is technically illegal, do we want to actively encourage it? Or just call it fair use? !CC

      Thursday, 16-Jul-09 16:14:00 UTC
    • Chris Watkins Chris Watkins Paul Cutler

      @prcutler Details, link?

      Thursday, 16-Jul-09 16:16:50 UTC

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