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@mond Why should it bother me? All is good. :)
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Why can't there be one proper distro? Ubuntu is too corporate, Fedora is unprofessional, Debian never gets anything done.... *sigh*
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@sazius I meant the political structures of the distro.
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@sazius Debian is a technocracy at best. It's not a democracy...
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@fabsh Debian is the most democratic distro I know, but a meritocracy in that only contributors (given DD status) may vote.
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@fabsh Arch: bleeding edge, stable, stock Gnome/KDE/XFCE or anything else, free, fast and no release names whatsoever!
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@madgoldfish no Gubuntu needed - Ubuntu will have a "classic" option to use regular Gnome (v2). Gnome-shell is not installable :(
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@fabsh why do you say Debian is not a democracy?
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@lxoliva Why do you attack me every week on a random topic? Is your life really that dull? I've had enough of this, next time you're ..
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@lxoliva .. blocked.
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@fabsh you're the one who's been attacking my friends and giving them false information
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@fabsh as for blocking me, please go ahead. I don't really care if you read when I fix your errors.
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@fabsh and although it might have been fun to discuss with you, watching you always fall back to ad hominems is spoiling the fun
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@lxoliva Yes. Because the only way to deal with people who have no arguments is being blunt. And yes, your person *is* the problem.
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@lxoliva Just don't @-reply me. How about you try to gain fame by attacking someone else?
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@fabsh you argue “store” has only one meaning. I point out another. you attack me for freetardness
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@lxoliva I hate to break it to you but people will disagree with you. You don't need to "fix" what they say. Maybe you are wrong sometimes?
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@fabsh you argue Skype doesn't route calls through other's computers, and blame users for not reading TOS, but won't say if it's mentioned
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@lxoliva I don't have time for your bullshit. Go bother someone else. Do you understand English?
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@fabsh none of these have to do with this imaginary drivel, and yet you attack me as if it did. the problem is in you, not me
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@fabsh I'm for freedom, truth and justice. I don't care about fame, but that you think I do reveals that you do.
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@fabsh I've been wrong many times, and I have no trouble whatsoever admitting it. I've learned from my mistakes, too.
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@lxoliva OK one last time: Stop @-replying me. I am not interested, I don't wanna know. I'm wrong. Just ingnore me. Thanks!
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@fabsh I also don't mind when others correct my mistakes. I thank them, instead of attacking them and then running away.
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@fabsh if that's so, please go ahead and block me. seriously. I don't want to read your complaints any more.
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@lxoliva If you don't want to read my stuff, unsubscribe from me and don't @-reply me. It's not like I was actively seeking *you* out.
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@lxoliva Don't make it look like this is my fault. You were the one actively jumping on my convos for months. I've never engaged you first.
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@fabsh we're miscommunicating. the only thing I don't want to read from you is your complaint about my counter-arguments
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@fabsh hey, you said you liked discussions, you seemed interested in software freedom, you joined others' convos.
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@lxoliva Then don't @-reply me. How hard is that to understand? I must've told you 10 times now.
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@lxoliva I like discussions. What you do isn't discussing, you troll people. I haven't had one good argument out of you in a year...
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@fabsh it's certainly not my fault that you can't stand counter-arguments and jump to personal attacks
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@lxoliva From what I can see Florian Mueller has better arguments and that is truely a shame...
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@fabsh how about this?: next time I present you with an argument, you don't attack me, but instead stick to the discussion
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@lxoliva No, it isn't. Now please honour my request and stop this nonsense. I have no interest in this...
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@fabsh I've also told you a number of times to block me if you find me so disturbing
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@fabsh heh. do you go trolling him, attacking him and cutting him off before he even presents the complete argument?
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@fabsh if you don't understand the argument, ask for clarification rather than labeling it as a non-argument
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@fabsh if it appears to be twisting words, point that out and explain, maybe we're just miscommunicating
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@mond Y'know, it's generally considered more polite to address criticisms at people, rather than talk behind their back.
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@psquid Meh. Don't bother. I'm done with those idiots. They don't have the backbone to argue with arguments and rather backstab you.
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@mond Either way, to essentially imply somebody is a troll, as the end of your dent did, but not @-mention them (so they don't see that ..
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@mond .. it was said unless they follow you _and_ notice the dent), just seems impolite to me.
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@mond You didn't even talk to me today. Stop lying. If you have a beef, take it up with me directly. Grow some balls.
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@mond I've never claimed to be polite. I think you'd be hard pressed to proove I did...
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@mond That discussion is 19 days old. You are conflating issues...
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@mond I didn't say that, I just pointed out that the way you'd constructed the dent could potentially be interpreted that way. And, ..
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@mond .. do so so bluntly.
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@mond Do you actually have any points you want to make?
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@psquid I certainly never got that notice until after you pointed it out.
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@richslxh Sorry, I tried but I don't have time for all the dancing around trying to make the other one look bad instead of real arguments.
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@fabsh Hm, maybe I misread the timeline. I have to admit I didn't notice how (relatively) old some of the dents in the conversation are.
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@mond If I am a heard voice it's because I am what I am. I say what I think and I am prepared to stand up for it.
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@mond Then let us rest this. Let's talk again when there's actual points to discuss.
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@richslxh Yeah, it seems like that is his thing. I don't like the world troll but I do believe that is the canonical definition of one...
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@fabsh for the record, I have a lot of respect for you because of just that. You're not afraid to make waves!
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@fabsh meh don't bait the trolls buddy
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@mdominick It seems like I have stirred them up quite a bit today, yeah.... ;)
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@richslxh Yeah, it is a shame. But I don't have enough time for this...
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