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RT @TonyclementCPC: NDPer was on same street I was last night. We worked together: if he got slammed door he'd offer to me to do better--&VV
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@themadhatter it will be interesting to see if @TonyclementCPC #G20 spending gets him re-elected with a wider margin !elxn41
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@laurelrusswurm if @TonyclementCPC is re-elected it will be because he goes door knocking his constituents in January and cares
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@themadhatter remember @TonyclementCPC is a politician. Knocking on doors ≠ "cares" any more than kissing babies does.
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@laurelrusswurm Sorry Laurel, you are too cynical. Tony does care. So do many politicians. Problem is when ideology takes over. #elxn41
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@themadhatter I didn't say he didn't care, just that knocking on doors dies not mean that he does.
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@laurelrusswurm Actually yes it does. Tony is out there working for his constituents all year round, not just during #elxn41 campaign.
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@themadhatter Also, I have ample grounds for cynicism; my son's elementary school was in Tony's riding when Mike Harris gutted pub education
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@laurelrusswurm And another friend was in Tony's riding at the same time, and Tony helped him when he was in trouble.
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@themadhatter Knocking on doors also does not mean working for constituents. #G20 expenditures seem to have helped constituents, however.
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@themadhatter Certainly politicians are human beings, and complex as human being are; they are capable of good & ill as we all are...
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@laurelrusswurm Knocking on doors means meeting and listening to constituents - reaching out. Getting out to see the people you represent.
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@themadhatter ... but !Canada has changed dramatically for the worse in my lifetime. And under #CPC Corporate taxes cut nearly in half?
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@laurelrusswurm Hurricane Hazel was always coming around to community events, met her many times when I lived in Mississauga.
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@themadhatter Sorry, citizens are drowning in taxes. Knocking on doors does not help.
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@laurelrusswurm Mel Lastman always showed up for community events. Byron Wilfert always attends. Tony Clement always attends.
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@laurelrusswurm Charlie Angus always attends. Often if they can't, their wives do (I've met Charlie's wife and daughter but not him)
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@themadhatter That's part of the job description. Photo ops.
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@laurelrusswurm Yes it does. Because if they don't come and talk to you, how will they know what concerns you?
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@themadhatter Attending community event is not making positive changes. Some of the scariest municipal pols I've known wouldn't miss.
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@themadhatter The only pol who has ever come to my door was Tom Jacobec. And he lied to my face. Anything to get elected.
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@themadhatter Mr. Clement and his gov't solicited Canadian input on copyright reform, got an unprecedented response & gave us #BillC32
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@themadhatter Asking constituents to tell you what they think and then ignoring what they say is not what I consider "listening" !elxn41
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@laurelrusswurm Hey, I'm not saying Tony is perfect. In the case of #c32 I think that orders came down from on high. and Tony is too contd.
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@laurelrusswurm loyal to the party for his own good. I suspect if he'd written the bill he wanted to write, and his instincts told him to
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@laurelrusswurm we'd have gotten what you and I wanted. Wikileaks remember? Make the Americans happy?
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@laurelrusswurm With #UBB Tony reacted by Twitter before anyone could stop him - and his instincts were dead on.
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@laurelrusswurm In my opinion the Conservative party should dump Harper and replace him with Clement.
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@themadhatter That doesn't help in the here and now. That's part of why I think parties are atrocious. Human beings need to count more.
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@laurelrusswurm I agree, party politics are atrocious. They are worse than every other system that has ever been invented.
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@themadhatter Worst things about strategic voting (a) entrenching the alternating parties, but (b) false idea of what citizens want !elxn41
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@laurelrusswurm Agreed, but without #Fairvote strategic voting is the only option.
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@themadhatter No, it isn't. The Green Party and the NDP will get traction if !Canada votes for what we want. #environment #health !elxn41
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@themadhatter Vote for Ignatieff to save us from Harper? Strategic voting probably responsible for #GPC and #NDP disenfranchisement !elxn41
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@laurelrusswurm I'm voting #Green. No other party cares for the environment. If we don't fix things now, we'll kill ourselves. #elxn41
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