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1. Bradley M. Kuhn OSCON

   Even Chris DiBona w/ his secret data admits that GPLv3 is taking over fast (> 50%) and #AGPLv3 is growing very very fast. #oscon !oscon

   Thursday, 23-Jul-09 16:29:22 UTC from web
   • Bradley M. Kuhn, John Sullivan and John Drinkwater and 4 others like this.
   • Linsux.org

     @bkuhn I'm pretty excited about those figures.

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 16:29:59 UTC
   • Michael R. Bernstein OSCON

     @bkuhn You can do interesting stuff even with non-secret data from Google: license-info.appspot.com cursecode.appspot.com !OSCON

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 16:36:06 UTC
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   • Jack Moffitt

     @bkuhn Unfortunately, all I hear lately are people hating on the GPL. It saddens me a little.

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 16:36:14 UTC
   • Stormy Michael R. Bernstein

     More about the projects that are 50+% women http://bit.ly/35Mtn (via @webmaven) #oscon

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 16:44:51 UTC
   • j1mc

     @bkuhn If only Google Code would allow projects hosted on their site to be licensed as AGPLv3. I hope we see some change there.

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 16:47:39 UTC
   • Joe Hildebrand Jack Moffitt

     @metajack, @bkuhn: Im one of the haters. One reason: folks who ask me to change LGPL code to GPL so that it will be more free.

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 16:47:47 UTC
   • Jack Moffitt Joe Hildebrand

     @hildjj Ill concede that one. But that is hating on zealots not on the license, no? :)

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 16:48:46 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Joe Hildebrand

     @hildjj, I rarely ask project license change if it's already GPL-compatible license. I'd never advocate LGPL->GPL, but may ask for LGPLv3. ☺

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 16:50:33 UTC
   • Joe Hildebrand Jack Moffitt

     @metajack, @bkuhn: I want the freedom to choose whichever license I want. GPL takes that freedom away.

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 16:55:23 UTC
   • Jack Moffitt Joe Hildebrand

     @hildjj Why should you be able to use whatever license you want on other peoples code? You can license your own code freely.

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 17:01:38 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn OSCON , Joe Hildebrand

     @hildjj, #GPL doesn't take that freedom away. You can opt out of the GPL by not using it or deriving from software under it. #oscon !oscon

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 17:02:35 UTC
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   • Joe Hildebrand Jack Moffitt

     @metajack, @bkuhn: dont always get a chance to opt out. example: employee copy/pastes from GPL code carelessly.

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 17:04:08 UTC
   • Matt Miller Jack Moffitt

     @metajack and how many of us write all of our code completely from scratch

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 17:04:24 UTC
   • Matt Miller Joe Hildebrand

     @hildjj thats not a good example, since that would violate just about any license (other than BSD)

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 17:04:58 UTC
   • Joe Hildebrand Jack Moffitt

     @metajack: the INTENT of the GPL is to attack my freedoms. Thats what its FOR.

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 17:05:02 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Joe Hildebrand

     @hildjj, I've never seen nor heard of case where someone was "trapped" b/c of that occurrence. Still, how are stupid employees #GPL's fault?

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 17:05:32 UTC
   • Matt Miller Joe Hildebrand , Jack Moffitt

     @metajack @hildjj better to say, I can only license my code as GPL if Im using (tightly or loosely) using other GPL code

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 17:06:13 UTC
   • Joe Hildebrand Matt Miller

     @linuxwolf: good point re: violation of any license

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 17:06:49 UTC
   • Matt Miller Jack Moffitt

     @metajack and that seems less free, not more

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 17:06:52 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Joe Hildebrand

     @hildjj, A document that's not a law can't "attack" you. You don't like #GPL, so you don't use it or associate yourself with it. Simple.

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 17:09:09 UTC
   • Joe Hildebrand

     @bkuhn: do you deny that one of the main intents of the GPL is to create more GPL software through various coercions?

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 17:10:25 UTC
   • Matt Miller

     @bkuhn it must be nice to have such a black-and-white view of the world

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 17:11:18 UTC
   • tycho/sam Jack Moffitt , Matt Miller

     @linuxwolf @metajack @bkuhn the gpl doesnt give me freedom to reliscence code I use argument strikes me as aggressivly abstract

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 17:13:30 UTC
   • Matt Domsch

     @bkuhn http://bit.ly/9xUxS discussion on using #AGPLv3 in #Fedora infrastructure. Concerns about hot-patching servers, public dev hosts.

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 17:33:21 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Matt Domsch

     @mdomsch, can you set up a conversation between me and the #Fedora team on #AGPLv3? I'd like to help and am glad they are using license.

     Thursday, 23-Jul-09 18:41:04 UTC
   • Lee Daniel Crocker

     @bkuhn Your view of GPL as harmless applies only if you accept the legitimacy of copyright law in the first place...some of us don't.

     Friday, 24-Jul-09 03:27:28 UTC
   • Dandee Fleming Jack Moffitt , Ben Roberts

     Designed for optimal performance. Optimal for what? @metajack and @benrobertsabq are debating. http://ping.fm/u15O1

     Friday, 24-Jul-09 16:32:53 UTC
   • Ben Roberts Jack Moffitt , Dandee Fleming

     Heading up to Santa Fe tonight to see @metajack and @thedandee rock out in Lousy Robot, along with Dirty Novels and more http://bit.ly/wV52l

     Friday, 24-Jul-09 17:24:07 UTC