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@fontana It's pro bono. OSI always welcomes other offers of pro bono counsel.
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Aslett: Opening up the Open Source Initiative http://lwn.net/Articles/444260/rss
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I find it !disturbing #OSI announced its plans at a conference like #OSBC, but maybe I'm just annoyed @mjasay ignores my OSBC talk proposals
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@bkuhn What happened?
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@bkuhn Keep in mind we were turned down for months and only got the invite Sunday evening...
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@bkuhn Really? I always got the feeling OSI was very corporate-orientated. Considering the history of the term "open source"...
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@bkuhn We actually have been discussing for much longer, including OWF, FOSDEM & OSCON.
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@bkuhn If that isn't the point of OSI, what is?
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@bkuhn It was just a status update. The process was announced much earlier independently of any event: http://wmk.me/jCle3K
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@bkuhn But yes, the plan includes a non-governance-linked Advisory Board for those folks.
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@fabsh,I can't figure out what purpose of #OSI is. I've urged them to focus on license-list,as it's the thing they've done well historically
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@bkuhn Like the corporate patrons at FSF do?
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@webmink, an Advisory Board is quite different from a patron. Anyway, why recruit an Advisory Board before you even have a membership?
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@bkuhn or the way the corporate-controlled Advisory Board at GNOME prevents all software freedom existing?
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@bkuhn Forming the Advisory Board is at the end of the process.
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@bkuhn IMO their pupose is "sell free software (possibly under weakened terms) to business."
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@bkuhn Who was recruiting AB members at OSBC? OSI wasn't.
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@bkuhn That is exactly what is happening.
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@bkuhn I have no inside knowledge, I'm just going what I see from their press releases, PR and the public record.
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@bkuhn All the OSI Board members present were there for other presentations. I was actually the "sceptic" on the Harmony panel...
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@bkuhn I think we've a solid consensus on the Board now.
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@bkuhn It is my least favourite event of the year. But all my travel costs were kindly sponsored so I went anyway.
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@bkuhn If you look at the slides I was actually advertised as the token sceptic :-)
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@fontana, I think both are an insult. I find it !disturbing that !OSCON hasn't scheduled you. Have you emailed them to ask why?
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@fontana, I realize #OSI license list is !problematic, but it's good there are multiple licensing reviewing authorities in #FLOSS community.
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@bkuhn pointless, and entirely for others amusement?
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@fontana He can just invoke himself actually :-)
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@fontana, I think there are no implications to the development process. The Advisory Board is not directly involved with development AFAIK.
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@fontana Gnome Advisory Board is IMO 100% a fundraising activity with zero real input to Gnome.
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@fontana, I presume the capacities are completely unrelated. Not much different from doing a work thing & volunteer thing at same place.
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@bkuhn There is no causal mechanism though. The point is to recognise stakeholders while isolating them from governance.
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@fontana,it's so !disturbing b/c he's #OSI General Counsel;I wouldn't be too concerned if Radcliffe occasionally did work as outside counsel
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@fontana Which is not the plan.
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@bkuhn You'd need to ask me privately.
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@webmink, there's a big difference btw accepting pro bono legal services & giving a high-ranking management position like General Counsel.
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@fontana Not so. He was retained to finish the process when it stalled; he did not draft the agreements.
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@webmink, my sources indicate #Harmony agreements were rewritten by #Radcliffe. But no one can ever know b/c of !disturbing secrecy rules.☹
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@bkuhn Sure, but check the DM I just sent you :-)
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@bkuhn He made good on the language but the conceptual framework preceded him.
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@fontana, Indeed, @allisonrandal did indeed say #Radcliffe drafted current versionf of the #Harmony agreements at #lfcollab. I saw it too.
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@fontana Semantics. Few of the ideas are his alone.
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@fontana I'm not sure whether that's covered by Chatham House. So I defer to @allisonrandal to answer.
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@fontana That's why I'd rather @allisonrandal responded :-)
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@allisonrandal,pls confirm: #Radcliffe received no compensation for work on #Harmony? Also,pro bono lawyers still've clients;Whose his here?
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@webmink shh, Microsoft may be listening ;-)
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@lxoliva I didn't say we'd always accept them :-)
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