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@fontana,it's in #lynx / #links tradition of naming web browsers so you can't tell the difference when you say them out loud. (cc @pchestek)
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@fontana That statement can be parsed in a way that says leadership is from Red Hat and in that sense, it is not wrong
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@bkuhn Seems to be a catch-up for the Groklaw audience.
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@fontana that's awesome... Where is my check from Daddy Shaddowman :)
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@webmink, I can believe that, but then I find it !disturbing that the #groklaw audience is so ill-informed about key #FLOSS policy issues.
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@fontana what is the difference between "a development group run by Red Hat" and "A Red Hat Community Project"? #invitedconfusion
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@fontana but the prevalence of Red Hat branding on fedora.com doesn't exactly discourage the idea that RH "runs" Fedora.
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@fontana You don't have to do anything. You could as a Fedora community member raise the question of what a "Red Hat Community Project" is.
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@fontana An excellent choice. :)
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@fontana Why would I not try fedora.org? That dog looks delicious! (Almost... miraculous?)
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Actually, "© 2011 !RedHat, Inc. & others" on !Fedora website makes me think of the "and the rest" thing in the #Gilligan's Island theme song
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@bkuhn I'm curious, what distro do you use?
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@gvs, this has been well documented publicly & discussed to death. :) Please see: http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2010/01/14/ubuntu-debian.html
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@fontana,more obscure but more recent ref is #MST3K of #ThisIslandEarth (has Russell Johnson in it) Servo:"What's this …& the rest crap?!?"
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@fontana Board or Advisory Board? If the latter, he has no more say than you do ;-)
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@fontana, I would suspect that "Copyright by the GNOME Project" would be considered legally equivalent to "Copyright GNOME Foundation". No?
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@fontana, as I understand it, you're third down in the legal department from General Counsel. Seems high-ranking to me for a lawyer.
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@fontana, but by making that argument, aren't you admitting that most of the updates to !Fedora website are © by !RedHat? #entanglement
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@fontana, you're the one who suggested the idea in the first place. I thought you had a theory on that already. If so, please do share.
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@fontana Copyright 2011 Little Pink Kittens - All Rights Reserved
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Given that I briefly watched parts of "Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back" on IFC last night, I should take care writing "you are the one…" online
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@bkuhn I wouldn't know. Not my kind of entertainment.... ;)
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@mairin (c) Fedora Project contributors, might be one way to do it
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@fontana FWIW "Copyright yyyy Red Hat, Inc. and others" is in fact an artifact of Red Hat Legal as an attempt to solve this current question
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@fontana Unsure, but I recall there being discussions on docs@fp.o around it.
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@fontana I think copyright notice is merely a legacy of Fedora as a continuation of Red Hat Linux (Red Hat Linux 10 renamed Fedora Core 1)
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@rahulsundaram Let's bring it up on f-a-b list first.
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@fontana If it's not an on-list discussion, it will be in a CVS commit probably made by 'kwade'.
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@bkuhn Off course, should have googled it first :-)
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@fontana Great find. SCM and bug/issue trackers have served me so well for the many times my memory isn't sufficient. #knowledgecommons
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@fontana Thanks for your help
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@fontana well done! although in my browser the <SHADOWMAN> wraps to the next line. might need your designer to expand its container div.
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@fontana I still like 'Red Hat Community Project' for the ambiguity; RHT needs ways to show comm connections w/out it being a power move.
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@fontana,Did you just accuse @copiesofcopies of using #IE? You realize for some people, that's like saying: "I bet you kill puppies", right?
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@copiesofcopies, you installed #Firefox on !Debian? Real TBs use #iceweasel! I suppose you kill puppies too, huh? (I am kidding 100%!)
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@bkuhn I need my browser on the bleeding edge, with rapidly and arbitrarily increasing version numbers.
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@bkuhn I could never get used to conkeror. I expected it to be exactly like using emacs-w3m with a better engine ;P
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@copiesofcopies, I like to have my browser on the scabbed-over smooth part; helps me know if some nasty #Javascript is coming at me.
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@fontana, the lynx/links thing made me ponder once that Guido should have named his programming language Pearl. That'd been some confusion.
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@pchestek,But it hasn't harmed the projects at all. I think they did just fine without having to resort to lawyers; it should be last resort
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