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@fontana at most one wants a good way to embed StatusNet threads/comment form on-page http://sngpl.ma/t4Cm1
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For those watching at home, @fontana found another place where I referred to #RedHatLegal re: #Fedora copyright notice http://bit.ly/mQCfwQ
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@quaid, I often pondered if "All Rights Reserved" contradicts !GPLv2 incompatibly. !Disturbing #Webbink "laid it down" w/out addressing that
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@bkuhn © is NOT "primarily attribution mechanism" but a notice of Copyright. You software folks ought to be ahead of the curve on this one.
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@bkuhn I suspect it was more evolving thinking to have "All Rights Rsevered"
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@laurelrusswurm In the context of the GPL, that's the wrong message; by design, it preserves rights across acts of dissemination.
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@laurelrusswurm In cc term, `rights severed' a nice jesty summary of cc0, whereas `revered' is like cc-BY-SA,
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@fontana, it's in detailed discussion (that's linked from URL you mention). Direct is: http://ur1.ca/4blel See "It's not my work anymore" §
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@fontana,why's it !disturbing? #Fame is a major factor in human life & a reason many !FaiF devs get involved. #ESR was right about this part
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@fontana,I'm surprised you believe "All Rights Reserved" is tacky & silly,given that your department (!RedHat legal) "lays it down" so often
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@bkuhn @fontana !Debian bug 388141 contains some interesting discussion on Debian website copyright. http://ur1.ca/4blzv
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@laurelrusswurm, IMO you're conflating denotative & connotative meanings of !copyright notices. @fontana & I were discussing the connotative
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@bkuhn I agree `reversed' isn't too accurate. I halfway think my tongue in cheek suggestion *is* accurate; in spirit of 4 freedoms. :-)
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@parsifal, thanks for pointing out !Debian bug 388141: http://ur1.ca/4blzv I've just commented there to volunteer to help. (Cc: @fontana)
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@fontana there was also a series remake!
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@fontana brief history of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_rights_reversed supposedly starts in 1960s also "wrongs" http://ur1.ca/28zzg
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@fontana, well, I see your problem right there. You're busy frying fish instead of doing legal work. Now your hippy kingdom makes sense!
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"What's this '…and the rest' crap?!?" I wrote a blog post about #GilligansIsland #copyright notices: http://ur1.ca/4k3am !RedHat !Debian
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I agree: !Debian should fix its website's copyright statements and licensing ♺ @bkuhn: ... http://ur1.ca/4k3am
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@bkuhn Notice has legal role only, don't look to it to solve other problems like attribution. Not its job in the scheme of things
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@bkuhn Chek this: http://blog.ninapaley.com/2011/06/27/credit-is-due/ (identi.ca is painful, can't you enable comments on your blog??)
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@davidejavacorner,"enable comments"="do extra work I've no time for". Choices are: (a) comment here,(b) comment by email, (c) ignore my blog
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@davidejavacorner, I'm not surprised Nina has that position on attribution. I think problem here is more logistical than intended plagiarism
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@bkuhn I don't think “status update” maps very well to “comment on a blog entry” function. so OStatus & StatusNet aren't good options IMO.
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@bkuhn I agree that "…and the rest" mention would be better than status quo for !debian website, hence #632175 http://ur1.ca/4kxwf
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