Conversation

Notices

1. Matěj Cepl Bradley M. Kuhn

   I had A LONG discussion with @bkuhn on this yesterday http://identi.ca/conversation/73205287

   about a year ago from xmpp
   • Dan Lynch Bradley M. Kuhn , Richard Fontana

     @fontana @bkuhn Well we can argue over terminology but with #RHEL the value to both customer and Red Hat is the support and services.

     about a year ago
   • Dan Lynch Bradley M. Kuhn , Richard Fontana

     @fontana @bkuhn I've heard RH people call it that. Maybe "support contract" is more strictly accurate word but we all know what it means :)

     about a year ago
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Red Hat , Dan Lynch , Richard Fontana

     @methoddan, @fontana is technically correct license is wrong word to use there but I too have many times heard !RedHat ppl call #RHEL that.

     about a year ago
   • Dan Lynch Bradley M. Kuhn , Richard Fontana

     @bkuhn @fontana That was my response earlier. I know the term "support license" isn't strictly accurate but even Red Hat people use it.

     about a year ago
   • Dan Lynch Bradley M. Kuhn , Richard Fontana

     @fontana @bkuhn I know you're a lawyer but I think you're just being pedantic. We all know what we're talking about. We will correct it.

     about a year ago
   • Dan Lynch Bradley M. Kuhn , Richard Fontana

     @fontana As @bkuhn says send some feedback and we can include it :)

     about a year ago
   • Fabian Scherschel Dan Lynch , Richard Fontana

     @methoddan I think @fontana should send some guitar feedback à la #TINAP! :D

     about a year ago
     Andy C, Richard Fontana and Hilton Garcia Fernandes like this.
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Red Hat , Richard Fontana

     @fontana, Didn't think "#RHEL support license" was official. I've heard it used unofficially by !RedHat people. "Support contract" standard?

     about a year ago
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Red Hat , Richard Fontana

     @fontana, the !RedHat #RHEL "subscription" is still a "contract" in a legal sense, right? So,subscription is just marketing mumbo jumbo, no?

     about a year ago
   • Fabian Scherschel Richard Fontana

     @fontana So Red Hat is really a newspaper? :D

     about a year ago
     Brian van den Broek likes this.
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Red Hat , disturbing , Richard Fontana

     @fontana, !disturbing part is when you redistribute sw from your #RHEL subscription, !RedHat says: "Where's your subscription now, SEE!?!?!"

     about a year ago
   • Dan Lynch karen sandler , Richard Fontana

     @fontana No worries. I wouldn't complain over something like that. This is what happens when @kaz isn't around to keep us in line/correct :)

     about a year ago
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Free as in Freedom , Dan Lynch , karen sandler

     @methoddan, yeah, @kaz'll be rotfl'ing when she hears this:"I go away for two episodes & you go & call a 'contract', a 'license'?" !FaifCast

     about a year ago
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Dan Lynch , Richard Fontana

     @fontana,BTW,which of us said "support license" anyway? Not to cast blame, but I should have indeed known better. @methoddan can be forgiven

     about a year ago
   • Dan Lynch Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn Indeed, this is what happens when there is nobody to say "this does not constitute legal advice" and correct terminology hehe:)

     about a year ago
   • Marvin Vek Red Hat , Richard Fontana

     @fontana Maybe you can tell me why @bkuhn keeps whining (about) !redhat 2+ months now. Does he work for Red Had or is he a genuine troll?

     about a year ago
   • Dan Lynch Bradley M. Kuhn , Richard Fontana

     @bkuhn @fontana It was probably me

     about a year ago
   • Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana

     @fontana, I effectively say that too in my initial !GPL enforcement letters. I'm tempted to put it literally in there, but I won't do it.

     about a year ago
   • Dan Scott Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn Are there real examples of Red Hat pulling support from source redistributors, or is it just a club-like clause in the contract?

     about a year ago
   • Matěj Cepl Richard Fontana

     @fontana even more complicated when you are from country when the “approval of using the work is made by contract" (old Czech Copyright Act)

     about a year ago
   • Alexandre Oliva Bradley M. Kuhn , Richard Fontana

     ♻ @bkuhn: @fontana, #disturbing when you redistribute sw from your subscription, Red Hat says: "Where's your subscription now, SEE!?!?!"

     about a year ago
   • Matěj Cepl Richard Fontana

     @fontana who is redistributor here? CentOS (which I am afraid many will understand) or IBM/HP (selling their comps bundled with RHEL)?

     about a year ago
   • Matěj Cepl Marvin Vek

     @onedot no IMHO he genuinely distrusts any commercial involvement in the FLOSS world.

     about a year ago
   • Matěj Cepl

     I thought so, but I was afraid that you could be too easily misunderstood (as if we had some separate contract with CentOS).

     about a year ago
   • Matěj Cepl Richard Fontana

     @fontana I don't think even Kantians are completely consistent in their opinions. ;)

     about a year ago
   • Matěj Cepl

     D'oh! It is THIS thread :(

     about a year ago