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1. Bradley M. Kuhn Red Hat , Richard Fontana

   @fontana, the !RedHat #RHEL "subscription" is still a "contract" in a legal sense, right? So,subscription is just marketing mumbo jumbo, no?

   Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 11:20:22 UTC from web
   • Dan Lynch Richard Fontana

     @fontana @bkuhn Well we can argue over terminology but with #RHEL the value to both customer and Red Hat is the support and services.

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 09:39:35 UTC
   • Dan Lynch Richard Fontana

     @fontana @bkuhn I've heard RH people call it that. Maybe "support contract" is more strictly accurate word but we all know what it means :)

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 09:42:33 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Red Hat , Dan Lynch , Richard Fontana

     @methoddan, @fontana is technically correct license is wrong word to use there but I too have many times heard !RedHat ppl call #RHEL that.

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 10:21:51 UTC
   • Dan Lynch Richard Fontana

     @bkuhn @fontana That was my response earlier. I know the term "support license" isn't strictly accurate but even Red Hat people use it.

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 10:35:01 UTC
   • Dan Lynch Richard Fontana

     @fontana @bkuhn I know you're a lawyer but I think you're just being pedantic. We all know what we're talking about. We will correct it.

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 11:01:36 UTC
   • Dan Lynch Richard Fontana

     @fontana As @bkuhn says send some feedback and we can include it :)

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 11:05:28 UTC
   • Fabian Scherschel Dan Lynch , Richard Fontana

     @methoddan I think @fontana should send some guitar feedback à la #TINAP! :D

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 11:07:48 UTC
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   • Bradley M. Kuhn Red Hat , Richard Fontana

     @fontana, Didn't think "#RHEL support license" was official. I've heard it used unofficially by !RedHat people. "Support contract" standard?

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 11:14:34 UTC
   • Fabian Scherschel Richard Fontana

     @fontana So Red Hat is really a newspaper? :D

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 11:21:13 UTC
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   • Bradley M. Kuhn Red Hat , disturbing , Richard Fontana

     @fontana, !disturbing part is when you redistribute sw from your #RHEL subscription, !RedHat says: "Where's your subscription now, SEE!?!?!"

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 11:31:05 UTC
   • Dan Lynch karen sandler , Richard Fontana

     @fontana No worries. I wouldn't complain over something like that. This is what happens when @kaz isn't around to keep us in line/correct :)

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 11:40:43 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Free as in Freedom , Dan Lynch , karen sandler

     @methoddan, yeah, @kaz'll be rotfl'ing when she hears this:"I go away for two episodes & you go & call a 'contract', a 'license'?" !FaifCast

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 11:43:29 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn Dan Lynch , Richard Fontana

     @fontana,BTW,which of us said "support license" anyway? Not to cast blame, but I should have indeed known better. @methoddan can be forgiven

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 11:46:25 UTC
   • Dan Lynch

     @bkuhn Indeed, this is what happens when there is nobody to say "this does not constitute legal advice" and correct terminology hehe:)

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 11:49:35 UTC
   • Marvin Vek Red Hat , Richard Fontana

     @fontana Maybe you can tell me why @bkuhn keeps whining (about) !redhat 2+ months now. Does he work for Red Had or is he a genuine troll?

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 11:52:07 UTC
   • Dan Lynch Richard Fontana

     @bkuhn @fontana It was probably me

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 12:01:53 UTC
   • Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana

     @fontana, I effectively say that too in my initial !GPL enforcement letters. I'm tempted to put it literally in there, but I won't do it.

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 13:33:44 UTC
   • Dan Scott

     @bkuhn Are there real examples of Red Hat pulling support from source redistributors, or is it just a club-like clause in the contract?

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 13:44:16 UTC
   • Alexandre Oliva Richard Fontana

     ♻ @bkuhn: @fontana, #disturbing when you redistribute sw from your subscription, Red Hat says: "Where's your subscription now, SEE!?!?!"

     Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 14:34:40 UTC