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okay, so quick noob question, what's the difference between regular linux mint and linux mint debian edition? Anyone know? !linux
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@habtool I see. That kind of makes sense. I've always wanted to try debian. thank you.
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@loug mint is based on ubuntu, debian mint is based on debian, debian is rolling, lighter but less polished
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@thistleweb Would you recommend debian mint or even straight debian to someone new to linux?
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@loug new to linux? I'd recomend the ubuntu base, it has a lot of the rough edges polished, even look at mepis too
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@loug: Mint is based on Ubuntu and is not rolling release. Debian edition is based on Debian and is rolling release. I …
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@thistleweb I'm fairly new. I've used Ubuntu, and I'd like to start branching out you know? looking at other distros.
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@loug I usually recommend mint, but give them the tools and encourage them to start exploring their own path in their own time
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@loug: There are pros and cons to both, as debian mint is based off debian-testing, things can break at times, mint main will not as a rule
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@thistleweb Makes sense. I've used the *buntu. I've gotten to the point w/ the terminal that i can remember how to uninstall Oo if need be.
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@loug: I run debian stable, with a few bits from testing/unstable, I also pull some packages incl, a kernel from http://progress-linux.org/
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@loug in that case a debian base would be a nice logical next step, maybe crunchbang? it's VERY slick with openbox
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@thistleweb I've tried crunchbang too. Didn't like it too much because of the way menus open. the shortcut keys still confuse me. :)
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@thistleweb That doesn't mean I won't give Crunchbang another try when I've got things a little better, but for right now, it was confusing
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@loug mint does have a familiar UI to it, while being slightly different under the hood, most of the editions are debian based now
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@loug openbox is manual, crunchbang is an excellent intro to openbox, it makes it easier than most, it's a culture shock, but excellent
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@rajitsingh thank you. rolling release, i take it, means that it's updated as needed instead of on a regular cycle?
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@thistleweb I'll definitely keep it on my list. :) I'm going to try the Linux Mint Debian Edition right now and give it a try. Can't hurt.
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@loug also, regular mint is more polished while the debian edition is still a bit rough around the edges.
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@thistleweb I'd actually like to take a look at Mageia, too. Should be #n00bfriendly.
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@loug 1 step at a time, if you can branch out in 1 way, while staying familiar with the rest, it's a mental safety net that keeps you there
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@loug Kind of. Once you install a rolling release distro, you just upgrade to have the latest OS- no need to reinstall a newer version.
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@loug my comfort zone is debian based, I need to make the effort to step beyond that, like to arch
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@thistleweb I need to do the same, once I get comfortable of course. Arch scares me a little, I read it doesn't have a graphical installer
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@loug tell me, what are your basic requirements for a distro?
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@rajitsingh ease of use, able to use flash and download a podcatcher, have easy to use word processing. that's about it.
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@johnnynull yeah, I think I'll skip the whole #Magiea thing until it gets a bit more established, too much chaff around it right now
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@thistleweb If you're looking to go beyond debians, go for arch, chakra, or a slack-based. There's that new one, or salix.
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@loug there's an "installing arch" youtube vid, talks through it, it's VERY simple, I was over complicating it without needing it
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@johnnynull I am looking at a full disc encrytion install of arch with openbox for my netbook at some point, hopefully soon
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@thistleweb I'm planning on adding that at some point. Probably going to hit SE first. When I have multiple free hours *eyeroll*
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@johnnynull with that type of setup, ideally it's a one off, rolling install that in theory won't ever be wiped / reinstalled
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@loug What about your hardware? Specs?
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@loug you should install #virtualbox and try various distros in it. If you don't like what you see, it takes a minute to erase.
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@rajitsingh uh..I'm not finding a site for it. Apparently it was only sold at walmart. hold on, i'll type up what's on the front panel.
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@thistleweb I love the rolling deal. Chakra's half-rolling is interesting in theory. OpenSuSe's Tubleweed would be neat if not for Novell
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@johnnynull opensuse is very nice, if uncertain future
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@rajitsingh Intel Pentium processor P6000, (1.86 Ghz, 3MB L3 Cache), Intel HD Graphics, 17inc HD+ LED LCD, 3GB DDR3 Memory, 250GB HDD <c>
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@rajitsingh DVD Super-multi DL Drive, Acer Notify 802.11 b/g/n wireless card, and that's all I know.
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@loug ...and install the mint packages. Google for instructions, it's easy to do
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@loug I mean the processor and the ram?
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@rajitsingh Intel Pentium processor P6000, (1.86 Ghz, 3MB L3 Cache), 3 GBs of DDR3 RAM
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@loug U think your h/w is capable enough to run something like linux mint, or ubuntu if you like unity. Also, why not try a kde distro?
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@loug Ubuntu and therefore mint have excellent h/w detection. Thats why I recommend those
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@rajitsingh My laptop's handled Ubuntu and Mint okay, some heating up on all the distros ive used but i think that's more the weather here.
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@rajitsingh that's why I've been trying to find an LXDE desktop environment enabled distro. but i am about to try a KDE distro right now.
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@rajitsingh I'm giving linux mint !kde a try then I'll try !kubuntu if i don't like LM.
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@thistleweb I found your username on the mint forums :P i see why you recommend it first. heh.
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@loug yeah, I am a mint advocate, but always try to be honest
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@loug mint is based off of ubuntu while the Fenian edition is based on debian and is a rolling release
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