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  1. Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn OSCON , Richard Fontana

    @fontana,I believe I'll be drinking #Hunter's #coffee anyway later this month;I presume her backers, #Microsoft, will buy coffee ∀ at !OSCON

    about 11 months ago from web
    • Dave Neary Dave Neary

      @bkuhn You might want to read http://bit.ly/nTW79F - interested in your reaction.

      about 11 months ago
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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn

      I posted a treatise (aka long blog post) on #Harmony, #CLA's, ©AAs. In #Dijkstra tradition:"Harmony Considered Harmful": http://ur1.ca/4no66

      about 11 months ago
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    • Aaron Seigo Aaron Seigo

      @bkuhn thanks for writing about Project Harmony in such a clear way. i heartily agree with your analysis. cheers :)

      about 11 months ago
    • Aaron Seigo Aaron Seigo

      @bkuhn i'm concerned w/the dense legalese in the templ docs is impenetrable for most f/oss devs, leading to signing w/out understanding

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Aaron Seigo

      @aseigo, #FLOSS devs can grok legalese, but time commitment is immense & ∴ you're probably right. We need:"don't sign that #CLA !" campaign!

      about 11 months ago
    • Greg Grossmeier Greg Grossmeier

      @bkuhn if ever there was a blog post that needed more than 140 char responses, this is it. I fear this will stifle conversation.

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Greg Grossmeier

      @greg,I don't see how conversation can be stifled; people have their own blogs. I stand by this mechanism: write a blog response & link here

      about 11 months ago
    • Greg Grossmeier Greg Grossmeier

      @bkuhn: responses via others' blog makes the convo disjointed, thus not optimal. Also requires A) a blog & B) identi.ca account. ...

      about 11 months ago
    • Greg Grossmeier Greg Grossmeier

      @bkuhn: ... comments on a blog require neither and are thus lighter weight/lower barrier to entry/more conducive to conversations.

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Greg Grossmeier

      @greg,I won't debate this again. I've a post queued explaining reasons. Pls volunteer to run comment § that suits my needs or leave me alone

      about 11 months ago
    • Erez Schatz Erez Schatz

      @bkuhn http://meyerweb.com/eric/comment/chech.html

      about 11 months ago
    • Aaron Seigo Aaron Seigo

      @bkuhn this is a reasonable start: http://lwn.net/Articles/450543 .. long live LWN.

      about 11 months ago
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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Erez Schatz

      @erez, I'm familiar w/ Meyer's positions on "Considered Harmful". I don't agree; it's a homage to computing history more than anything else.

      about 11 months ago
    • Simon Phipps Simon Phipps

      @bkuhn I almost agree, except to blog on a topic gives it more exposure and some valid responses may not want to do that.

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Erez Schatz

      @erez, Meanwhile,if you agree w/ Meyer that you "didn't learn anything" from my #Harmony blog, I'd love to hear about why (other than title)

      about 11 months ago
    • Erez Schatz Erez Schatz

      @bkuhn No, I just dislike "considered harmful" titles

      about 11 months ago
    • Simon Phipps Simon Phipps

      @bkuhn I think you are confusing "choice of law" and "choice of venue". The former gives clarity; the latter has the issues you identify.

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Erez Schatz

      @erez, I really don't title that way often, but there was an alliteration w/ "Harmony" and "Harmful" that was just too tough to resist here.

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Simon Phipps , Richard Fontana

      @webmink, I asked @fontana to read over my points on that & he indicated they were correct. I'd be curious to hear his view on that part.

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Simon Phipps , Richard Fontana , Dave Neary

      @webmink, I just saw comment on @fontana's blog. I hope you *will* write something nonetheless, even *if* it's repeating @nearyd & @fontana.

      about 11 months ago
    • Erez Schatz Erez Schatz

      @bkuhn Oh dear, missed that one completely. My bad.

      about 11 months ago
    • warp warp Erez Schatz

      @bkuhn, I think "... considered harmful" is by now overused (and in some cases, abused), so like @erez, I dislike seeing it in new posts.

      about 11 months ago
    • Kevin Granade Kevin Granade Richard Fontana

      @fontana #OuterCurve, the #Microsoft "open source" foundation?

      about 11 months ago
    • sazius (moved to status.saz.im) sazius (moved to status.saz.im)

      @bkuhn Great post! BTW I love that you use the acronym html-tag :)

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn disturbing , Tom "spot" Callaway , Richard Fontana

      @fontana, the most !disturbing use of #lolcats I ever saw though *after* I stopped using it, was @spot's announcement of fatherhood.

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Erez Schatz , Richard Fontana

      @fontana, Don't be worried. I disagree w/ @erez. I think "Considered Harmful" is ok as title; #Meyer's real complaint is style, not title.

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Simon Phipps , Richard Fontana

      @fontana @webmink, I believe I've now corrected the choice of venue/law conflation. Please let me know if it's not adequately corrected.

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Richard Fontana

      @fontana, more annoying is that you didn't mention this to me when you saw a draft of the blog post. Why didn't you say so?

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn All Things Problematic in this World , Richard Fontana , Dave Neary

      @fontana, to extent to which it compares you, me and @nearyd to #Freud, I definitely find it !problematic. OTOH it's akin to my title choice

      about 11 months ago
    • Kevin Granade Kevin Granade Richard Fontana

      @fontana got around to reading it, and it seems to have some merit as an objective-ish summary, but it doesn't seem to add anything.

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Simon Phipps

      @webmink, over the years, I've grown much less sympathetic for people who want to make public statements that are hidden in plain sight.

      about 11 months ago
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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Richard Fontana

      @fontana,violating my rule (repercussions exist for posts on OpenSource.Com),I commented there. Summary:Where's your transparency now,SEE?!?

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Richard Fontana

      @fontana, Are you sure that #Plone Foundation has universal © of Plone? I don't think they do. it'd still be issue, but not as bad IMO.

      about 11 months ago
    • Brian van den Broek Brian van den Broek

      @bkuhn Very useful and careful post; thanks! Nit: "was done in secrecy behind closed meetings" scans wrong to me.

      about 11 months ago
    • Andy C Andy C Brian van den Broek

      @vanden SCANNABILITY alert.

      about 11 months ago
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    • Gabriel Saldana Gabriel Saldana Andy C

      @andyc whats that scannability thing?

      about 11 months ago
    • Andy C Andy C Gabriel Saldana , Marjolein Katsma

      @gabrielsaldana @marjoleink doesn't like her timeline polluted with >140 redirects, inline images and, to an extent, I agree with her.

      about 11 months ago
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    • rpcutts rpcutts Gabriel Saldana

      @gabrielsaldana it's a send up of an absurd and rude reaction to someone posting photographs on their own website.

      about 11 months ago
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    • Gabriel Saldana Gabriel Saldana Identica Mode , Andy C , rpcutts

      @andyc @rpcutts does this scannability problem happen only at the web interface? I dont have it with !identicamode :)

      about 11 months ago
    • 1111aether 1111aether

      @bkuhn Thanks for writing that :) It's a very helpful overview and, btw, I think a TL;DR would have done it injustice.

      about 11 months ago
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    • Clacke Moved to Parlementum Clacke Moved to Parlementum sazius (moved to status.saz.im)

      @sazius <aol>Exactly what I was going to say!</aol>

      about 11 months ago
    • Clacke Moved to Parlementum Clacke Moved to Parlementum Brian van den Broek

      @vanden Agree. Behind meetings? Behind closed doors may be the metaphor being sought? @bkuhn

      about 11 months ago
    • Clacke Moved to Parlementum Clacke Moved to Parlementum

      @bkuhn Awesome read! With an impressive but intimidating list of references that will keep me busy for weeks. :-)

      about 11 months ago
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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana

      @fontana,I agree it's inappropriate for a #FLOSS NPO to reserve the right to proprietarize !GPL'd works. However, not a big deal if not 100%

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Clacke Moved to Parlementum , Brian van den Broek

      @clacke @vanden, I've fixed the strange wording of that to now read: "done secretly in closed meetings dominated by corporate attorneys".

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn disturbing , Richard Fontana

      @fontana, I find that statement by the #Plone Foundation very !disturbing. I wonder if that's antithetical to their Form 1023?

      about 11 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Richard Fontana

      @fontana, #Hunter's #UnitedLinux background + #Microsoft ties makes her position taken in comments on your blog dubious. http://ur1.ca/4ny7q

      about 11 months ago

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