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1. Alexandre Oliva An old group

   Does anyone know why the !Fellowship site is down, and whether there's an ETA?

   Wednesday, 05-Aug-09 00:29:54 UTC from web
   • Ben Finney GNU's Not Unix , Free Software

     @lxoliva, strategy. if it gets people to commit to a !gnu distro at all it is a big plus for !freesoftware. incremental steps thereafter.

     Wednesday, 05-Aug-09 00:31:32 UTC
   • Alexandre Oliva GNU's Not Unix , Free Software , Ben Finney

     @bignose spreading new non-Free dependencies wont help them actually get free, or learn to seek freedom !gnu !freesoftware

     Wednesday, 05-Aug-09 00:35:42 UTC
   • Alexandre Oliva GNU's Not Unix , Free Software Foundation , Free Software , Fundación Software Libre América Latina , GNU Linux-libre project , Ben Finney

     @bignose but you didnt answer the question, you offered a poor excuse for something worse !gnu !freesoftware !FSF !FSFLA !Linuxlibre

     Wednesday, 05-Aug-09 00:37:29 UTC
   • J.Y.Hsu

     @lxoliva Well there are bunch of good and critical free softwares not GPLed

     Wednesday, 05-Aug-09 00:39:18 UTC
   • Alexandre Oliva J.Y.Hsu

     @meaculpa the issue is not whether its GPLed, but rather whether it is Free, ethical Software

     Wednesday, 05-Aug-09 00:43:49 UTC
   • Ben Finney GNU's Not Unix , Free Software

     @lxoliva, if you dont like the answer, dont ask. it *is* strategic to promote even not-fully-free !gnu to users of non !freesoftware OS.

     Wednesday, 05-Aug-09 00:45:30 UTC
   • Ted Smith GNU's Not Unix , Free Software , Ben Finney

     @bignose Strategic to what end? non !freesoftware goes against all of the !gnu projects goals, so it cant be that end.

     Wednesday, 05-Aug-09 00:46:54 UTC
   • Alexandre Oliva GNU's Not Unix , Free Software Foundation , Free Software , Fundación Software Libre América Latina , GNU Linux-libre project , Ben Finney

     @bignose strategic mistake. promoting different beef recipes doesn't advance vegetarianism !gnu !freesoftware !FSF !FSFLA !Linuxlibre

     Wednesday, 05-Aug-09 00:51:53 UTC
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