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1. Adam

   @juergenfenn Carbon Emacs was always just a build of Emacs for Carbon (previously part of core Emacs) + a bunch of extra Elisp packages

   Friday, 07-Aug-09 22:20:32 UTC from xmpp
   • Adam emacs

     @juergenfenn !Emacs isnt supposed to act like any other Mac application. Its Emacs.

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 21:06:06 UTC
   • Reinhard Tartler emacs

     @teferi Well, !emacs does integrate quite nicely in #gnome and #windows...

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 21:07:51 UTC
   • Adam emacs , Reinhard Tartler

     @siretart !emacs integrates with Gnome because GTK and Readline use Emacs keybindings by default

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 21:08:26 UTC
   • Adam Reinhard Tartler

     @siretart On Windows, it sure as hell doesnt. Windows uses CUA keys.

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 21:08:38 UTC
   • Adam Reinhard Tartler

     @siretart (and C-f is Find in every other Windows app)

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 21:08:58 UTC
   • Reinhard Tartler emacs

     @teferi I may be wrong, but I thought !emacs would use the native #windows file dialog, just like in #gnome

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 21:09:53 UTC
   • Adam Reinhard Tartler

     @siretart It sure as hell doesnt in *my* GNOME, and nor would I WANT it to.

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 21:11:09 UTC
   • Reinhard Tartler

     @teferi oh, how do you disable that?

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 21:11:48 UTC
   • Adam Reinhard Tartler

     @siretart dunno, it never acted like that for me. C-x C-f always prompts me in minibuffer.

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 21:12:12 UTC
   • Adam Reinhard Tartler

     @siretart if youre finding files from the menubar, YDIW

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 21:12:36 UTC
   • Reinhard Tartler

     @teferi i seldomly do that, but from time to time, I find using the bookmarks in the #gnome filedialog convenient to use

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 21:15:04 UTC
   • Adam

     @juergenfenn its definitely a truth universally acknowledged that Emacs NS is half-baked. No ones disputing that.

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 22:14:24 UTC
   • Adam emacs

     @juergenfenn But !emacs isnt going to act like any other Cocoa app that follows the Apple HIG, because it has its own set of rules.

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 22:16:04 UTC
   • Adam

     @juergenfenn Its not exactly at the top of the emacs developers priority list, since OS X is a non-free platform.

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 22:18:43 UTC
   • Adam

     @juergenfenn Yes, I ended up undoing that as quickly as I could, since Option is Meta in Terminal.

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 22:19:18 UTC
   • Adam

     @juergenfenn (when I still had a Mac, that is)

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 22:19:28 UTC
   • Ben Finney emacs

     @teferi, uh? GTK doesnt use !Emacs keybindings, what do you mean by that claim?

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 23:14:01 UTC
   • Adam Ben Finney

     @bignose Try out Emacs cursor movement keys in a GtkTextView sometime.

     Friday, 07-Aug-09 23:15:04 UTC
   • Michael Gratton emacs , Ben Finney

     @teferi @bignose I don't think !emacs key bindings in gtk+ text fields are enabled by default, but there is a gnome pref to make it so

     Saturday, 08-Aug-09 00:27:59 UTC
   • Adam Michael Gratton

     @mjog well, they sure as hell are in /my/ GTK.

     Saturday, 08-Aug-09 00:28:25 UTC