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@armijn,are you sure those are #OIN's legal LLC members? What percentage of LLC does each of them control? Formal legal paperwok on this?
Thursday, 18-Aug-11 13:17:52 UTC from web-
@bkuhn yeah..the for-profit status is something I would like to understand. watching a for-profit amass a patent warchest is uncomfortable.
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@bkuhn I can imagine a future OIN that goes out and shakes down non-licensees aggressively as a business model.
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@bkuhn will do, or try :D what is the ancient software? Mind if I say you are asking?
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@mcgrof, #OIN problem is: #swpats license covers only this stuff: http://ur1.ca/14gz3 which are all old versions of the relevant software.
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@bkuhn which ancient software? Can you elaborate?
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@mcgrof, if you look at http://ur1.ca/14gz3 , you'll see the "!Linux system" as #OIN defines it. Versions of everything there are ancient.
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@bkuhn wouldn't the answer to that question be that the software in question needs a lot of legal review and this takes money and time ?
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@bkuhn I'll ask the other one about why OIN is a for-profit company as that does seem very puzzling
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@bkuhn agreed...
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@bkuhn can a non-profit acquire patents? That's what OIN seems to do
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@bkuhn hm, but they seem to license the patents to only member for-profit companies, no? Wouldn't a non-profit's company goal be for all?
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@bkuhn that is, could it be quid pro quo strategy?
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@bkuhn wouldn't that be a smart strategy? To obscure to the attackers who *is* protected?
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@mcgrof, actually, I disagree on that: Better to know who is defended. Regardless, question is: who decides #OIN policy? Give #transparency
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@fontana,IRS places real & actual requirements on various tax statuses, so it's not merely symbolic. Anyway: the main point is #transparency
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@bkuhn got it -- I agree, but could this not be informaiton which can help the attacker ?
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@mcgrof,I'm not completely surprised. Given the hard time I gave #Bergelt about !IBM's attacks on #TurboHercules last time he took questions
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@armijn,I have,of course. What point are you trying to make? My guess'd be you've not grokked "Successor Release" defn & its limitations.
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@armijn, if you are going to so accuse, offer some proof. Can you tell me how new features in newer versions of "Linux System" are covered?
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@fontana, & I think you haven't read carefully what is required to get & maintain these tax exempt statuses. Have you ever filed a 990?
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@armijn,I've sought for years expansive reading there; lawyers say it doesn't exist. If you've got a diff legal opinion on it,please publish