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I can't properly argue in 140 chars. I will write a blog post and post a link here. You all are denting to fast for me to reply. !linux
Tuesday, 11-Aug-09 17:52:52 UTC from web- Craig Cabrey likes this.
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@bognarandras I'm a !linux advocated. I run linux exclusively on ALL my computers and have converted all my friends and family.
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@techwizrd I eagerly await this post
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@justinmwhitaker every OS has its downsides ;)
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@techwizrd take it easy :)
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@justinmwhitaker !linux is the only OS that protects my freedom. I hate Apple and Microsoft (as companies). All better now? :) (It's true)
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@demuxer I'm trying, but I'm being flooded by dents. It's all a bit scary for me.
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@justinmwhitaker !linux is the only OS that protects my freedom. That's why I use !linux.
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@justinmwhitaker thats one reason I use !linux, too - but I use Windows and OS X as well
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@techwizrd @marjoleink I'm not currently using !Linux. Was using Ubuntu, but 9.04 screwed the pooch with pulse audio. No time to fix it.
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@techwizrd I agree with you position. Just sayin', you're not alone :)
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RT @techwizrd #Linux is the only OS that protects my freedom. That's why I use it #softwarelibre
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@justinmwhitaker buy system76.com and u wont deal with hardware issues. just like OSX.
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@jza Not a bad idea. I could give my wife the Gateway 6860FX, and get a Pangolin. Do you have one?
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@justinmwhitaker yes my laptop is a system-76 and never had any issues. Also an EEEPC with !linux and never had hardware issues.
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@jza I need something with enough beef for World of Warcraft and podcasting. The EEEPC won't cut it. :P
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@justinmwhitaker true I got a real laptop and an EEEPC both shipped with !linux. Both never experience hw issues
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@cabrey Thanks.
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@techwizrd did you ever read this? http://is.gd/2c9wK
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@justinmwhitaker Actually #pulseaudio is the first sound system that has worked flawlessly for me. I understand I'm not the only one, though
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@elnerdodegeek Yes, it's a great article and it makes a lot of good points.
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@jza @techwizrd the day linux or any OS stop improving is when its dead .. i dont think any linux user is against improving the Platform
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@phrakture I'm sorry, but that's just nitpicking like GNU/Linux. Users don't understand the difference between the kernel, tools, wm, and de
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@phrakture You are completely correct though.
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@techwizrd There's nothing that couldn't stand improvement. You're getting reax to the OS X is prettier idea.
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@phrakture I thik he's referring to Linux GUI stuffs in general by saying "Linux". It seems clear enough.
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@techwizrd Im honestly this close to actually starting a project to do just that... if we can get a Linux distribution to rival...
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@bigbrovar True that. I just think many possible improvements are being skipped over just to play with new tech like Clutter and Plasma.
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@techwizrd ... MacOSX's flash and overall cool factor and just got the word out, I think Linux would rly make it
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@techwizrd I think we'll have to sacrifice cutting-edge features for focus on stability and polish tho
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@bigbrovar Splitting Evolution into multiple apps, categorical places bar for Nautilus, better IDE's, easy management of Apache (XAMPP-like)
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@elnerdodegeek Or just improve a project like !gnome or !ubuntu
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@techwizrd well that is why its foss u can always make your contribution, beside they are many email client,fm,IDE.. linux is about choice
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@techwizrd about apache its not meant to be for noobs so u have to learn to use it.. a security should be above else when it comes to server
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@techwizrd I was thinking about that originally, but I don't think they're quite the right sort for this particular mission...
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@techwizrd as well, strike up a deal w a company to produce desktops/laptops built specifically for our imaginary distro
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@techwizrd do a lot of work to make sure everything works together; rebrand and make extensions for all apps in default install...
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@techwizrd ... to improve integration and compatibility among apps and desktop
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@bigbrovar I want to, but I'm only a lone coder (although I do run a dev team), and there's only so many project I can juggle at once.
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@bigbrovar Tell that to the noobs. That's a cop-out answer. You don't have use the GUI (and I prefer CLI).
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@techwizrd well u dont have to be a coder, file a bug, send a blueprint, file a bug.. sure u can do one of these the idea is participate
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@techwizrd noobs have to know that foss is about the community and u.. everyone as a role to play, its not a customer , seller relationship
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@techwizrd a noob who wants to install and use apache most have to learn it there is not easy way round that one.. its for his own good
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@jza Sorry, point taken. But you were guilty of flaming/trolling too.
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@bigbrovar Well, why doesn't everyone go back to CLI then? Sometimes, simple point-and-click is nice...
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@jza I know. I mean for developers. Like a quick guide through the API, an explanantion of how things work in general, patching, etc.
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@bigbrovar Not necessarily. XAMPP and MAMP have nice following. A simple web-interface for tasks like monitoring server stats would be good
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@techwizrd at least floss give you a mailing list, IRC rooms and other mediums to contact developers. And it depends which project you are
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@techwizrd you can go here for usability matters: http://live.gnome.org/UsabilityProject
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@techwizrd you can go here for usability matters !gnome http://live.gnome.org/UsabilityProject
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@techwizrd !Gnome Love is for new developers http://live.gnome.org/GnomeLove !kde lso have this
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@techwizrd I dont think Linux and Apple are targeting the same users on the desktop. I find OS X unusable for what I do.
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@jza I know. I like and use FLOSS almost exclusively. I'm already subscribed to several mailing lists and I lurk on several IRC channels.
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@techwizrd I thought gnome-love has exactly that: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/guides/platform-overview/platform-overview.html
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@xopher I have eral virtual desktops on Windows
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@xopher and have had them since 1997 or so - so far what KDE offers is way behind what Ive used on Windows; hope there is a better one!
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@marjoleink different strokes I guess. I find Windows totally unusable (moreso than MacOS). !linux has been my primary desktop for 10+ years
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@xopher for most things I prefer linux thogh
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@techwizrd haven't tried glipper in a while, didn't cut it last time though. I use gvim occasionally, but find the mouse gets in my way
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@techwizrd This could be one of the longest conversations I have seen on #identica #in-context. Could make a good blog post by itself! :-)
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@marjoleink What're you using for virtual desktops on w32? I haven't found anything I like (I don't like them in #gnome or #kde, either.)
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@jfm Ive used many but what I like best is XDesk (shareware) - havent tried it on Vista which I just want to get rid of ;)
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@jfm lots of functionality - I especially XDesks option to define dynamic rules that can determine where an apps window will open
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@marjoleink I kind of like the projects/activities in #gnome-shell and #Etoile vs standard virtual desktops.
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@jfm thanks, Ill have a look at those!
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@stav I know. It's pretty crazy. 1. Provocative comment 2. Large conversation 3. ??????? 4. PROFIT!
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@jfm what I most miss in !KDE virtual desktops is the ability to give each a separate background so I know `where` I am
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@techwizrd It helped set a record for daily dents today!
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I note that @stav is pointedly not asking me to #dent_faster
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@stav You have to cut him some slack; he can't remember that he posted the other three.
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@exador23 I'm giving myself a !neologism award for #quadrudenting, portmanteau quadruple & denting, vt. to post every entry four times
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@stav I don't follow, but occasionally shows up on identispy. the octoposts happen immediately. must be a problem w laconica tools setup.
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@frankenspock are you suggesting I blocked it unjustly. I am willing to reconsider.
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@frankenspock I wouldn't want him to think me #snippy haha
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@frankenspock @stav it's up to 8 simultaneous posts now. must have switched to the chronic.
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@stav is "portmanteau" anything like "port?" (the drink). e.g. any port in a storm? ;)
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@ronkjeffries a portmanteau is a linguistic blend, i.e.: taking two or more words and putting them together to make a brand new one.
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@jjardon Yes. I currently use Geany and Gedit, but I've been meaning to write my own for some time.
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@stav Woot!
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@stav That's why it says ??????. XD
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@techwizrd making an IDE is not a popular project. But depend your goals, !glade !ajunta and the late gazpacho failed misserably
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@techwizrd man where are u from XAMPP is not for production systems how many average user ever need to install apache? not my grandmum
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@techwizrd anyone who wants to use apache should learn to use it security is most important when it comes to servers.. u just have to learn
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@techwizrd the philosophy of xampp says never use it in a production evn http://is.gd/2cHK2 never sacriface security for ease of use
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@jza I prefer hand-coding my PyGTK, but Glade/libglade s awesome. PyGTK has awesome documentation too.
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@jza GtkSourceView has a number of patches in review (code-folding, multi-language syntax highlighting, etc.) that need to go through
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@bigbrovar You're right. I prefer CLI, but my Friends are scared shitless of the Terminal. They're very used to point-and-click.
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@techwizrd then there shouldnt come near installing webservers or servers for that matter .. u cant eat your cake and have it .
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@techwizrd for simple webservers for learning purposes ,, u can try xampp which is available for nix* but i would say learn the real thing
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@techwizrd there are some things that should never be point and click. point and click as its limitations and can be hard to use somethings
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@bigbrovar I do know Apache pretty well. I use Apache a lot. Something like phpmyadmin for Apache would be cool though.
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@techwizrd u can always try cherokee or recommend it to your noobie friends http://is.gd/2cOvU
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