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- Mike Linksvayer and Greg Grossmeier like this.
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@bkuhn I think you're a raving mad radical! There, that better?
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@bkuhn I still dont get (C) abolitionists. How does copyleft work w/o copyright? And non-free SW companies have other tools to restrict
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@bkuhn does he support communization of all software via popular revolution? I think no, right?
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@x1101,that's why I'm opposed to © abolition,b/c proprietary software companies have other non-© tools at their disposal to proprietarize.
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@fontana, so was your claim that you're the most radical person among *all* people you know in the *world*? That's a broader claim!
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@bkuhn plus removal of copyright doesn't mean that they can't simply avoid handing out src.
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note that @bkuhn's dent is likely referring to trade secrets, which is what AT&T enforced unix with early on(and patents ofc)
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@x1101 I think © abolitionists tend to see software freedom as secondary and cultural preservation as primary, e.x. @laurelrusswurm
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@fontana, I wrote down what you said: "I [Fontana] am the most radical person in the world, then @mlinksva & you [bkuhn] are the third."
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@fontana, admittedly,you kept saying contradictory things about who was most radical person during our call. Anyway, it doesn't matter much
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@bkuhn I suggest the "cool" hypothesis from his statements :P
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@kevingranade while I agree thats true, its a bit tangent to the point @bkuhn was making, that or @bkuhn was tangent to himself....
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@fontana,I didn't write down what you said next,but I think it was something like: "You're a distant third, b/c you're not really a radical"
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@diablomarcus,it's interesting to note that linguistic development of "radical" or "rad" being a synonym for "cool" in the 1980s Cc @fontana
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BTW, @fontana, I just experienced again my annoyance that your username is too long. I thought you were going to shorten your username?
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@bkuhn Probably because that's when Americans became communists. #LongLiveSoftwareFreedom #Heehaw
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@bkuhn you mean being a radical isn't cool? Well, there goes that plan... #sarcasm #possiblyAtroll
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@bkuhn that's not a reason to oppose © abolition, but to be indifferent to it
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@bkuhn we could abolish copyright and just make it illegal to NOT provide C&CS for anything, including hardware (how's that for radical?)
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@kevingranade I think the two ought to be mutually supportive.
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@liw indeed, that's the extreme of "regulatory demand for source" I've mentioned https://identi.ca/conversation/69035489#notice-71385328
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@fontana Ö you let the secret out! those under saint in the church of emacs may never know! delete that now
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@fontana not familiar with them, do you have a link to the corresponding discussions?
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@fontana afraid not, mine was simply that you were using the term 'radical' as a cool synonym
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@fontana, if there really is a Second Free Software Foundation, then I'm quite sure that you are, in fact, The Mule. #Asimov #Foundation
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@fontana, could be, but probably I'm not.
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@mlinksva So i read a lot. I'll probably fall asleep before i head to the 5-digit-dent-room is top secret
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@x11r5 I read a lot too, but have never been to the 5-digit-dent-room! Is it part of the #Illuminatus! conspiracy?
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@cer Read in the lot
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@x11r5 you're already in the 5-digit-dent-room unless your digits are base >10.
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@x11r5 I'll give it a try since you aren't going to let me into the 5-digit-dent-room
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@cer reminds me of the room
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@mlinksva Perception is 9/10 of the room
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