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update !KDE 4,7,1 very nice … akonadi_bookmark, korganiser, … crash again, again, again, again … so wonderful desktop.
about 9 months ago from Choqok-
@marci1 And instead of reporting bugs and helping the people working at it, you spam the kde group, yeah! that's the spirit dude!
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@mgraesslin PIM software definitely can be considered part of the desktop.
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@mgraesslin akonadi is UNSTABLE so stop boring me. Akonadi is a big part of KDE 4,7
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@marci1 i don't find it's akonadi that crashes, but specific PIM components. and yes, it isn't part of Plasma Desktop.
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@vatergarp by that logic, every KDE app is "part of the desktop" which is absurd. KDE is not a monolith, but a large set of projects.
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@aseigo thanks for your answer, some part of KDE use my patience. You made a amazing job but please I don't want to be a crash test user.
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@aseigo I don't know what 'logic' you're talking about, but an email application is essential to pretty much every PC nowadays [...]
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@vatergarp [...] carries the 'KDE' in it and is such a fundamental part of my KDE experience, I'd def'tly call it part of my desktop as well
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@aseigo What would you call a 'desktop'? Just Plasma itself? What are plasmoids then?(I'm not not ranting here, just asking out of interest)
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@vatergarp the desktop is what we ship in kde-workspace + kde-baseapps. lots of things in there, but not kontact (or 100s of other titles)
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@vatergarp that can be said about many pieces of software. if i use thunderbird (i don't), does that become "part of my desktop"?
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@gerlos which we do, in each release. there is a line that can be crossed between "contrustive feedback" and "petulant whinging", however.
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@gerlos and when it gets crossed (and worse: when we support it!) we lose developers, users and our community spirit for no good reason.
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@aseigo how can you tell one from the other? i think that is hard. :)
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@kenami very good point! we do struggle with identifying this (as a community). i will think on it, research, and maybe do a blog entry
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!tzaf, kids. Be good.
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@marci1 @mgraesslin as a heavy akonadi user. (Kmail, korganizer, kaddressbook,) all hooked to google service. Akonadi has been super stable
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@marci1 @mgraesslin I mean I have been particularly blown away by kmail2 rock solid, stable and fast as heck. Plus the imap idle is a dream
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@marci1 @mgraesslin so akonadi being unstable for *u* does not mean its unstable for everyone. Btw what distro do u use?
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@marci1 The kdepim 2.0 made me switch to MaxOS X for my desktop usage
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@slubman really? An email client made u switch OS? Did u try Thunderbird? as long as it works for u. For me Kmail has been rocking
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@slubman the move was flaky when I first tried it. But since 4.7 its been an awesome experience especially with the push email support.
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@bigbrovar the mail client was the straw that broke the camel's back.
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@slubman I have tried OSX couple of times. just not my cup of tea. never been able to find a system as productive as kubuntu really.
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