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Kecewa ya?
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@adhisimon masih belum ngerti. Tapi, sepertinya begitu.
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!identica is not a !microblogging site anymore. In my opinion, they betray their user (at least me). !identicafails
سليمان likes this. -
I think maybe having a stream-oriented interface option in 1.1.x might be a nice fix for you.
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@marjoleink from Choqok, I see it, and use it just the same
Jason Riedy likes this. -
Similarly, the interface from Pidgin's the same...
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@marjoleink Ok, actually, seems the messages lose a bit of context when they are posted webby then appear via pidgin. hm.
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Yeah, apart from missing nick tags, sometimes, it's more or less the same in API clients
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I saw posts saying they're bringing back !xmpp and Evan was talking about optioning types of threading
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I like the new interface, 4 occasional use, but I'd love there 2 be a regression option 4 those who disapprove. Then we'd all B happy :)
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There is that option; you can set up another site that federates with Identi.ca. One of the nice things about federation!
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That's true. I'm not a big website user, but this update was interesting enough to get me here. I'll probably regress to !xmpp in time tho
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maybe it's a trend in FOSS currently to have breaking design which frustrating people
Lohan G likes this. -
Yes, that's our goal!
Lohan G likes this. -
lol :D
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we are animals who love our uses, and afraid of change (and also a little bit lazy for changes)
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@emegeve Changes are good if they keep the idioms and logic the early adopters found valueable.
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Erm, what's your goal? (Genuinely, I can't tell which notice you're replying to … or whether there's humour)
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One thing we keep talking about with future upgrades is providing a separate interface for people to evaluate before general release.
Graham Perrin likes this. -
It's difficult. And, I think that many people on identi.ca used the site *because* it had an outdated interface, not in spite of it.
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that's a very good idea!
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Yeah, but it's a lot of work. Also, difficult to maintain data integrity. You end up building three s…
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Excellent idea.
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I approve of this "beta" interface idea.
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Best part would hopefully be, when you need to roll out the upgrade for everyone, it should just be "Change a DNS rule and magic happens".
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@evan Like a preprod seperated server, or an option to add beta / production updates ?
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Though I personally find this current look-and-feel a bit fugly, waiting for custom themes to come back.
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@evan that should only be a matter of user interface & config options. You should be able to perform most backend changes without troubles
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And although I'm actually liking this new threaded view, would be definately nice to have a linear form option.
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I agree. I think switching from threaded to stream and back will be a UI enhancement in 1.1.
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Identi.ca is already my excuse to quit twitter, but if it can kill facebook too? I'm up for that. G+ (and everything else google) Sucks.
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Another option will be to select which kind of notices you want to see -- just events, everything but bookmarks, that kind of thing.
Kent Fredric and Hugh Barnes like this. -
I replied to a notice from Evan, the result appears to be addressed to a different user (not to Evan) … and so on. http://ur1.ca/54p9c
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The software has been available for 6 months. We've been giving people free eval sites that whole time on http://status.net/.
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Really? You can't say anything positive about this? Personally, I think StatusNet is massively better than it was a couple days ago.
Dvd Mrsdn likes this. -
Could you write a wiki page explaining the new stream concept? (assuming there is no page already)
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Thanks! @marjoleink holds us to a high standard, which I definitely appreciate.
Graham Perrin likes this. -
http://identi.ca/notice/84187612 and some other notices addressed to @evan do not appear at http://identi.ca/evan/replies
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I think Marjolein is trying to say that, in the threaded view, children are all of the first parent, not nested, breaking context.
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@marjoleink features were stipped for a pretty face. i'm failing to see the value of 1.0
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( You can infer context by reading the *whole* thread, but FFFUUUU. Also, "3 replies" my ass. )
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That's because I've had @marjoleink blocked for years.
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@kentnl that may be symptomatic of http://status.net/open-source/issues/3358 unpredictable addressing when replying in conversation
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@eightyeight Which features? I might be biased by my !heybuddy-filtered view of Identi.ca, but I haven't noticed a lot of loss.
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Agreed, There's not usually a good reason to need to have a site "down" for 3 days for an upgrade if you have deployment sorted out.
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I am so confused ....
Graham Perrin likes this. -
@windigo 4: after voting in a poll, you get _every_ vote after your own. very noisy.
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Just take your time, you'll get it. :)
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is http://identi.ca/notice/84187873 a response to http://identi.ca/notice/84187812 and is it tongue-in-cheek or genuine?
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ha ha only serious
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@evan you may improves, but don't break what you've got in the past. More users on fb, but twitter shouldn't change to be like fb
Azlan likes this. -
It seems #newidentica tries to be everything to everyone *except* Identica for identicats :(
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@marjoleink are you typing the @-reply by hand? it's not stripping them, only not prepending them as it used to
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Also, *this* is what I hate about twitter. You never see discussions with randoms and twitter devs. Twitter is pious and antisocial.
Hex likes this. -
I've seen enough OS projects with devs who are hands-on and talking to their users to know big companies like Google have no excuse.
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^Fuuuuuu , replied to myself -_- .
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Are you doing that by clicking on the "arrow curving back" button?
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Side note: G+ , Twitter and Facebook are what I'm now starting to call "anti-social-media".
Dave Bonta and Hugh Barnes like this. -
Yeah, its just scrolling back to find the last time you said something to click the right arrow is hard -_-.
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Ah, that's interesting! Might be why people are having problems with addressing; they think reply box is for last notice in thread.
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@eightyeight since realising the addressing bug I'm explicitly using @ within notices in the hope that the addressee will not be omitted
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Yeah, id say logically I'd assume a message is a response to the precedent by default, not the parent ~50 msgs away.
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@marjoleink I logged on to the web UI to take a look; quite a bit different, and a lot of random stuff I'm not really too interested in...
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@marjoleink ...but overall it just seemed like a nicer layout. Honestly, I might not have used any features that are currently busted. :)
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@eightyeight Ah, okay - I've been getting poll responses, but just because I'm subscribed to people. Interesting...
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@marjoleink i doubt that anyone that's into OSS is afraid of changes, i mean that we'll get used to the new interface.
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@eightyeight Aha, then !heybuddy is definitely shielding me from a lot of stuff. The context button still works here, but I do miss @ names.
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Now for example I click the reply icon alongside "Ah, that's interesting!…" then click SEND
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@marjoleink i hope that @evan and the teamlisten to what people is asking to get a better !identica and better status.net.
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@azzorcist gua demen liat postingan lo bikin bule-bule pada berantem
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@x1101 Yeah, I meant while replying - but I know it shows your "real name" on the web interface now. :)
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♺ @evan: 1 thing we keep talking about with future upgrades is providing a separate interface for people to evaluate before general release
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@marjoleink I see it as I *always* did: I click "in reply to" and see what you're replying to, just fine.
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@marjoleink I didn't use old web interface, don't plan on using the new one. My world hasn't changed that much. Desktop clients rock :D
Hugh Barnes likes this. -
There are many clients, but don't under estimate official web client. Most new users will get first impression on it.
Hugh Barnes likes this. -
@jankusanagi There are many clients, but don't under estimate official web client. Most new users will get first impression on it.
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@adhisimon new users won't be missing old behaviour, right? :D -- Anyway, I don't understimate it, I just don't like "webapps", & avoid them
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@adhisimon yeah but you shouldn't underestimate IdentiCurse either because it will eat your brains!
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For me it's the software freedom, the live stream and the threadedness. Oh, and the good API.
Evan Prodromou likes this. -
@marjoleink HE said "first things NEW users see is web interface", hence my comment. And existing users should know about clients.
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I'm having a hard time following this thread in flat mode. Nice if /conversation displayed threaded, then both available.
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@mlinksva join the _very_ long list of users who are in your shoes. also, the web interface needs to bring @-replies back
Kat Walsh and Alexander Skwar like this. -
+1 ♻ @eightyeight @mlinksva join the _very_ long list of users who are in your shoes. also, the web interface needs to bring @-replies back
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This !identica threaded view is only good for the web interface. !pidgin and !android users have several problems
Heikki Lappalainen likes this. -
Thought I'd mention that I also prefer chronological order in my timeline. This tree-style convo view just seems wrong.
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seems cute, but i'm not really understanding how the replys work or the group tags ._. Some weird arrow in front of the user name :x wtf
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