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Firefox addon for kwallet updated http://ur1.ca/59nj0 !kde !firefox #kwallet
about 8 months ago from Choqok- Arthur Schiwon likes this.
- Alvaro Soliverez, hoergen Onadalana and Vincent-Xavier JUMEL repeated this.
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Is that supposed to be ported to the secrets framework when it's done?
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@skreech2 Would be nice, but I think no, it's just an external addon.
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I'm aware but kwallet is to be deprecated for a co-developed secrets framework.
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@skreech2 Well, as you said "It is to be..." atm KWallet is rock solid and working perfectly so the more support it has, the better
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@afiestas It is not working perfectly until it's plug-and-play with Firefox.
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@afiestas Nor is it working perfectly until it's a reasonable alternative to keepassx and its ilk.
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@johnnynull well it works well enough for me tough I haven't use keepasxx, my point was tht KWallet should be supported nevertheless
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@afiestas That I'll agree with.
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@johnnynull BTW if you have suggestions for secret service now is a good time for collaborate with it :p
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@afiestas Very sorry, I don't get what you mean by this.
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!KDE and !GNOME are working on one way to manage passwords and secrets that is compatible with both. the secretservice
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@johnnynull If you have ideas for KDE Secret Service, you should share them with the developers
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@skreech2 Thanks very much for the explanation. Now how the hell is it I didn't hear of this?
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@afiestas There's no secret. It should function as I just said KWallet should, which does very poorly, if at all.
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@afiestas In addition, this is what people say constantly on the KDE forums. Are they ever even read?
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@johnnynull And how is that? can you add a bug with your idea?
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@johnnynull It's not a matter of secrets... "Secret Service" is the name of the new GNOME/KDE shared password system...
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@afiestas So to clarify, the KDE project needs me to file a bug report to figure out KWallet/SecretService should integrate w/Firefox?
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@johnnynull Aaaah no no, sorry I think I misunread the topic
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@afiestas misunread? ups. i want to learn how to unread ...
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Going along very nicely. One of the areas that's really stupid to be DE specific so everyone is happy about it being a shared secret :)
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Is that the basis of your comparison to Keepassx? Works with Firefox?
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@skreech2 no, but since Kwallet doesn't either, at least with keepassx, you have an easy to use, secure vault. Not so with Kwallet.
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What makes keepassx securely easy that Kwallet doesn't have?
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@skreech2 The way you interact with Kwallet sucks. Big time. It does not function like keepassx. Have you ever used it?
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@marjoleink @skreech2 Keepassx is like a password file-manager. Kwallet is some obscure thing that works on 50% of what it should.
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@skreech2 this means I can use KeePass across 4 different operating systems (OSX, Windows, Android and Debian) with *1* database
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@marjoleink I was going to commit to an app like Keepass, decided to use a remember-able hash instead. No software to rely on.
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@mcg a rememberable hash for hundreds of accounts, passwords, credit card numbers, pin codes, with accompanying notes & attachments?
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@mcg maybe I'm missing something, but KeePass maintains a database. mine is half-full of things that are not passwords but related
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@marjoleink So it's more than a password manager?
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No :-) That's what I'm asking how does it function? If it's across lots of stuff then wait for Secret Service first.
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@mcg it's a password manager at heart, sure, but much more than that and I use it that way. forgot to mention URLs ;)
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@marjoleink Ah, well anyhow, using a hash you can remember for passwords, especially for the many accounts you use is very helpful.
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@skreech2 OK, thanks for your input. I'll refrain from having passwords until then.
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With the exception of Android I could do that with Kwallet as well but if you need agnostic tools then of course use them
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@mcg sure. but not all the other related stuff as well: for some entries my notes sections (acount data, URLs, etc) are long - and useful.
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@skreech2 as it turned out, having an Android version too proved to be very useful on several occasions already - wouldn't give it up
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@marjoleink @johnnynull Not saying you should. Just trying to see if Kwallet should be keepassx if what is wanted is Keepassx
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