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Poll: @RMS Richard Stallman: "If you want freedom don't follow Linus Torvalds." Do you agree? !fsf !Linux
Sunday, 09-Oct-11 16:33:17 UTC from web- Leonardo Bravo Illanes, یهانقلابی and mohammad Efazati and 5 others repeated this.
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@communix nope. Last I checked, he doesn't have a useable kernel.
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@communix Linus might not be 100% with GPLv3, but that doesn't mean RMS thinks he's against software freedom.
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@eightyeight I find it hilarious how #Hurd still doesn't really exist :P (also, randomly using spot to rant how #GNU obsesses about info(1))
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@communix Did he really say that? If he did, he's truly gone bonkers!
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Wait, is it "stupid anti-RMS polls" week already? At that count, I'm highly surprised we haven't reached the #Godwin point yet.
Ivaylo Valkov (Ивайло Вълков) likes this. -
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This is not an anti-RMS polls, I just questioned his leadership ability.
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Torvalds and the Linux Foundation tend to ignore the scale of GPL violations by corporate partners; RMS is still needed as a counterbalance.
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@wgreenhouse [citation needed]
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@eightyeight almost none of the manufacturers of http://ur1.ca/2pk6a have been sued, for instance.
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@eightyeight ... so if we're discussing who should "lead" FOSS advocacy and protection of licenses, Linus is way behind
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@eightyeight in many of these Android cases, *nobody* goes to bat for the kernel--the only party to complain is BusyBox.
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Cuesta ser consecuentes... y alguien debe ser capaz de decirles a los q nadie se atrevería a corregir
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Un tirano el hombre :S #todosigueigualitocomolodeje
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Para los que no entendieron, eso fue puro y duro sarcasmo
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@k1efer Disculpe que llegue tarde a la fiesta, ¿pero cuál de los dos es un tirano?
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Ninguno, son personas con distintos puntos de vista
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Tranquilo viejo, se lo que hago ;-)
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@wgreenhouse Eventually free software users will have to choose between GNU/HURD and Busybox/Linux
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Not following Torvalds doesn't mean not using freed versions of Linux. It is meant as in viewpoints. 1/4
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First versions of Linux were not even free software. They probably hardly could pass for open source (which was nonexistent till '97). 2/4
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Until 6 years ago Linux was developed with proprietary SCM. If BitKeeper free (as in prise) usage was not withdrawn, I bet ... 3/4
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...it was going to still use it - no Git. Torvalds just doesn't care about software freedom. 4/4
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@valkov Just for comparison, how free is GNU/HURD?
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@csolisr Ughm..fully?! It is GNU project, endorsed by FSF, hosted @ Savannah. Problems of Linux are binary blobs & non-free firmware loading
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@zyth wait, what do you mean there? :-)
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@zyth Why. Till now Richard Stallman fighted for (IT)Freedom.
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voted "neutral"
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Damn... Working the system does not work >_<..
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100% agree -- torvalds is firmly anti-freedom/pro-"open source."
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@tedks I think we shouldn't associate anti-freedom folks with open source. OSS put FS ethics aside, but it's always been for sw freedom
Mike Linksvayer and rsiddharth like this. -
@lxoliva How can you separate software freedom from the ethics of !freesoftware?
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What is follow in this context? I think Linus still contributes to free software positively, but he's not a role model for software freedom.
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Howabout dropping " Linus Torvalds" from that stirng? Tada.
Greg Grossmeier likes this. -
@tedks as an example, consider slavery abolitionists that aimed at growing business rather than human rights
ismaell likes this. -
Ni Dieu, ni Maître!
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Thanks, @lxoliva. I regard open source as a game we play that uses capitalism's lack of a soul to spread software freedom.
rsiddharth likes this. -
@webmink no, thank *you*! it didn't help that some self-proclaimed open sourcers (e.g. mr torvalds) are not quite for sw freedom
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@webmink he and other important OSS voices helped distort the picture and made room for nonFS to pose as OSS
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i dont care :)
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