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  1. Jeff Has Moved Jeff Has Moved

    It would be nice if StatusNet allowed you to keep the same identity regardless of which instance you are on.

    Saturday, 29-Oct-11 01:58:28 UTC from IdentiCurse at Cincinnati, Ohio, United States
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      Amy H. Amy H.

      @gomerx Oooh, that'd be kinda awesome...

      Saturday, 29-Oct-11 02:03:12 UTC
    • Jeff Has Moved Jeff Has Moved Amy H.

      Yes. If one instance is down, you can post from somewhere else. And you always keep the same username. Worth looking into.

      Saturday, 29-Oct-11 02:06:18 UTC
    • Coyo Stormbringer Coyo Stormbringer Alex Maurin

      yeah, that would be epic.

      Saturday, 29-Oct-11 06:30:44 UTC
    • Marjolein Katsma Marjolein Katsma

      @gomerx excellent idea! portable identities.

      Saturday, 29-Oct-11 06:49:13 UTC
    • sazius (moved to status.saz.im) sazius (moved to status.saz.im)

      Yeah, I've been thinking about moving to the StatusNet instance at parlementum, but I'll loose all my subscribers and I have to refollow etc

      Saturday, 29-Oct-11 07:26:19 UTC
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      Alex Maurin Alex Maurin

      @gomerx that would be awesome!

      i would love to be able to keep my friends and such, regardless of which instance i used.

      Saturday, 29-Oct-11 07:30:36 UTC
    • Jeff Has Moved Jeff Has Moved sazius (moved to status.saz.im)

      That's why when I move I'm moving once and for all. I've seen people jump around so much I lose track of them.

      Saturday, 29-Oct-11 20:53:14 UTC
    • Jeff Has Moved Jeff Has Moved sazius (moved to status.saz.im)

      I'm most interested in re-subscribing to people, so I'll go through them one by one and re-add. My subscribers will catch up.

      Saturday, 29-Oct-11 20:54:45 UTC
    • Jeff Has Moved Jeff Has Moved Alex Maurin

      I've thought about ways portable identities could be implemented, but I have no idea how hard it would be. Maybe it's being worked on

      Saturday, 29-Oct-11 20:59:26 UTC
    • Hippy Steve Hippy Steve

      you mean like this?

      Saturday, 29-Oct-11 23:16:04 UTC
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      exador23 exador23 Hippy Steve

      and this??

      Saturday, 29-Oct-11 23:16:52 UTC
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      HippySteve HippySteve Hippy Steve

      and this??? :)

      Saturday, 29-Oct-11 23:18:23 UTC
    • Jason Riedy Jason Riedy exador23

      @exador23 Considering how often my self identity changes, why would I expect software to keep up?

      Saturday, 29-Oct-11 23:19:41 UTC
    • Jeff Has Moved Jeff Has Moved HippySteve

      No, you still show up as 3 different accounts. I mean something more than having the same name on multiple instances.

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 04:38:05 UTC
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    • Jeff Has Moved Jeff Has Moved

      Of course that would mean no one could create an account without checking every other instance for the User ID. Which could be a problem.

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 04:44:04 UTC
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    • Hippy Steve Hippy Steve

      @gomerx why switch instances at all? why not just have a software download on everyone's computer that serves as a single-user instance?

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 06:46:07 UTC
    • Andy C Andy C

      @gomerx force openid on the world wide ensure uniqueness.

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 07:01:45 UTC
    • Marjolein Katsma Marjolein Katsma

      @gomerx so what if your account (only) lives on your *own* machine while posting on/from different nodes?

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 07:02:57 UTC
    • Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou

      Yeah, I think that's what OpenID is for.

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 09:29:07 UTC
    • sazius (moved to status.saz.im) sazius (moved to status.saz.im)

      Yeah, right now I'm thinking about jumping to parlementum or setup my own SN instance. But haven't decided yet.

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 09:29:49 UTC
    • Jeff Has Moved Jeff Has Moved Evan Prodromou

      Yes. I'm just starting to find OpenID useful.

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:21:00 UTC
    • Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou

      That said, I violently disagree with the idea. There's a reason we domain names in email addresses.

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:32:24 UTC
    • Jeff Has Moved Jeff Has Moved Marjolein Katsma

      How do you post from a node without having an account? An E-mail style relay system? Sounds like nirvana for spammers.

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:36:34 UTC
    • Jeff Has Moved Jeff Has Moved Evan Prodromou

      I was thinking about having an entire account sync on up to 2 or 3 instances a la Hadoop. That would be complicated, though.

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:37:23 UTC
    • Jeff Has Moved Jeff Has Moved Evan Prodromou

      Right. THe more I think about it, the more I realize the advantages of "user@domain" as a unique ID.

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:39:09 UTC
    • Marjolein Katsma Marjolein Katsma

      @gomerx by having an account (allowance to post) *for* your own unique identity which lives on your own machine?

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:44:51 UTC
    • Marjolein Katsma Marjolein Katsma

      @gomerx something like that may even *help* with spam control - in order to post you need to gain permission to post first

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:47:05 UTC
    • Jeff Has Moved Jeff Has Moved Marjolein Katsma

      So have an account for your account on another instance. Just send all dents to (gomerx@identi.ca)@dent.gomertronic.com. Complicated.

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:48:49 UTC
    • Marjolein Katsma Marjolein Katsma

      @gomerx maybe prove your good intentions first in a 'sandbox'-like node before other nodes allow an id to post via theirs #thinkingaloud

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:49:03 UTC
    • Jeff Has Moved Jeff Has Moved Marjolein Katsma

      Maybe OpenID is better. It still seems clinky, but at least it already exists.

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:49:36 UTC
    • Marjolein Katsma Marjolein Katsma

      @gomerx maybe complicated... you need an account for your ID/profile but the latter lives on your machine - I can see possibilities

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:50:41 UTC
    • Jeff Has Moved Jeff Has Moved Marjolein Katsma

      That's another common problem in these situations. Just because someone else validated you doesn't mean I should.

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:51:46 UTC
    • Marjolein Katsma Marjolein Katsma

      @gomerx OpenID is I think half-way there but would need to be extended (or you'd need a wrapper maybe).

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:52:03 UTC
    • Windigo Windigo

      @gomerx Yeah, I was thinking of an "Identity Forward" or something, that when people subscribed to one account, it forwarded them to another

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:52:47 UTC
    • Marjolein Katsma Marjolein Katsma

      @gomerx no, but a node could set a (configurable) quorum - and it could work both ways: banned from too many nodes could auto-ban

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:53:34 UTC
    • Marjolein Katsma Marjolein Katsma

      @gomerx the idea is to completely de-couple publishing (nodes) and identities (profiles).

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:54:48 UTC
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    • Jeff Has Moved Jeff Has Moved Marjolein Katsma

      Well, I'm not one to suggest solutions for other people to build. When I know a lot more maybe I can come up with something I can implement

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 14:59:26 UTC
    • Daniel Martí Daniel Martí Evan Prodromou

      @evan if that was to exist, wouldn't it mean that there would be one parent server, i.e. all instances would merge into one?

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 15:00:28 UTC
    • Jeff Has Moved Jeff Has Moved Marjolein Katsma

      And to do that without a central directory or some central management of nodes is a challenge.

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 15:00:37 UTC
    • Marjolein Katsma Marjolein Katsma

      @gomerx absolutely. but I don't think it's impossible...

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 15:08:28 UTC
    • Marjolein Katsma Marjolein Katsma

      @gomerx maybe a FOAF-like network where nodes 'know' friend nodes - there's no central in FOAF but it can be 'navigated'

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 15:10:13 UTC
    • Marjolein Katsma Marjolein Katsma

      @gomerx I think we need a system with spam control built-in from the start.

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 15:22:02 UTC
    • Marjolein Katsma Marjolein Katsma

      @gomerx both SN and T failed in that respect but after initial inertia T evolved faster and better, now has a largely automated system

      Sunday, 30-Oct-11 15:23:20 UTC

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