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  1. Qi Hardware Qi Hardware Linux , Free Software , Free Software Foundation Europe

    why do people demand free/open software but accept closed and locked hardware? !linux !freesoftware !fsfe

    Saturday, 22-Aug-09 09:48:37 UTC from web
    • James Robertson James Robertson

      @qihardware very often people don't know they have a choice.

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 09:51:06 UTC
    • Bert Desmet Bert Desmet

      @qihardware: in my humble opinion is hardware something totaly different then software... but I can't explain that in 140 letters :D

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 09:52:21 UTC
    • Risto H. Kurppa Risto H. Kurppa

      @qihardware: maybe because it works? !linux !freesoftware !fsfe

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 09:54:07 UTC
    • Qi Hardware Qi Hardware Bert Desmet

      @bdesmet so you prefer closed hw ? if so why?

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 09:55:47 UTC
    • Qi Hardware Qi Hardware Risto H. Kurppa

      @rhk that's not really a good reason, closed source software also works and yet we all want #freedom and rightfully demand it

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 09:56:36 UTC
    • Bert Desmet Bert Desmet

      @qihardware: I don't prefer it over open hardware, I just don't really care.. but send me an e-mail to b i e r t i e [AT] g m a i l

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 09:58:14 UTC
    • Rui Seabra Rui Seabra OpenMoko FreeRunner

      @qihardware can accept it when it's the only viable choice & if I can run 100%, or close, Free Software. I used a Nokia before a !freerunner

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 10:01:21 UTC
    • Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér Free Software Foundation Europe

      @qihardware Because it is mostly pointless, until it also features a matter replicator to give you a chip factory. Agree, !FSFE members?

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 10:03:11 UTC
    • Qi Hardware Qi Hardware Rui Seabra

      @ruiseabra sure,!linux on it,is a start,but even with a banana,a cage is still a cage. This one prevents freedom,innovation+collaboration...

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 10:06:47 UTC
    • Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér

      @qihardware ... What would be useful is well-documented flashable hardware like WRT54GL. Things to put Android on, or a @FreeSoftware GPS.

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 10:07:07 UTC
    • Qi Hardware Qi Hardware Free Software Foundation Europe , Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér

      @mjjzf ok, chips are a valid point, but resigning before even trying,just because it is a tough job? ... does not sound very !fsfe ish ...

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 10:08:16 UTC
    • Qi Hardware Qi Hardware Linux , Free Software , Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér

      @mjjzf so a piece of hw that can be controlled,located,reset+spied on from the outside is ok as long as it runs !linux and !freesoftware?

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 10:18:53 UTC
    • Børge A. Roum Børge A. Roum

      @qihardware Always Innovating is making an open hardware netbook: Touch Book. But they don't even have a Wikipedia article http://tr.im/wSGt

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 10:20:39 UTC
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    • Qi Hardware Qi Hardware Børge A. Roum

      @forteller ah, looks interesting, not really open, designs only on request, but we'll certainly contact them, thanks for the pointer

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 10:35:48 UTC
    • Digital Robertson Digital Robertson James Robertson

      hello @jrobertson how are you today?

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 10:50:42 UTC
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      Digital Robertson Digital Robertson James Robertson

      hello @jrobertson how are you today?

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 10:50:44 UTC
    • James Robertson James Robertson Digital Robertson

      @drobertson still feeling a bit tired for some reason, but apart from that not too bad.

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 10:52:58 UTC
    • Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér

      @qihardware I am not suggesting a complete cerebral disconnect, I am just moving the focus i litte bit.

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 11:12:31 UTC
    • thisisabore thisisabore Linux

      @qihardware not to be a smartass but isnt it better than a piece of hw that can be controlled, located, reset etc. that *doesnt* run !linux?

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 11:22:01 UTC
    • Qi Hardware Qi Hardware Linux , thisisabore

      @thisisabore sure,far far better, yet i am debating whether better is good enough in this case ... !linux

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 11:43:11 UTC
    • Qi Hardware Qi Hardware Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér

      @mjjzf it has to start somewhere and reflashable devices are a very good start,am thinking about the next step+how to overcome the hurdles

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 11:47:03 UTC
    • Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér Free Software

      @qihardware Issue with hardware is that the otherwise low barrier to entry making participation in !FreeSoftware easy doesn't apply to HW.

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 12:01:39 UTC
    • James Robertson James Robertson Digital Robertson

      @drobertson can you give me a ruby example related to build xml?

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 17:32:17 UTC
    • Digital Robertson Digital Robertson James Robertson

      @jroverflow try ... Build XML in Ruby http://snippets.dzone.com/posts/show/7728

      Saturday, 22-Aug-09 17:32:23 UTC

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