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@tichodroma yeah, i don't agree with that. it makes it much more difficult to mass-silence the spammers. cc @marjoleink @sudaraka
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for those posting to !spamreport, it would be nice if you "linified" the nick by preceding with '@'
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The group clearly states not to do so, sorry.
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@mvdan yeah, i just found out about it, and i don't agree with it. hopefully a discussion about it ensues
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I /think/ it might be due to the fact that the spam modhelpers do not wish the reports to appear in the reported's timelines.
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@eightyeight @ name creates a link to spamer's profile in !sr timeline, which contribute towards SE ranking and help the spammer's goal
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Good point.
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@eightyeight However I do agree it would be tedious for modhelpers to copy and paste the names
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Maybe a script could be developed for that purpose.
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@sudaraka actually, it won't. SE ranking only comes from links outside, not internal. linkifying the nick won't help any
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Spam accounts are not deleted. @evan said he's working on some lines of code to hide them from the web UI.
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@mvdan regardless, linkifying the account isn't doing anything for increasing their potential revenue
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@mvdan Ultimate goal should be to build spam reporting into SN. Unfortunately it's not a priority at the moment.
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@eightyeight Internal links do contribute to SE ranking (at least /w Google), ofcause without much weight in comparison to external links
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@sudaraka I don't think so. Links from a single domain count only as one cohesive whole. More links don't do anything.
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@eightyeight links would be easier, but i'd like to hear @marjoleink's opinion. and could we move the argueing to status.net/wiki/Talk:Spam
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@eightyeight for 'mass-silencing' spammers you need a script. but we do NOT need to create more links that actually benefit them
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@eightyeight actually they do: links from high-PR pages to a profile help the ranking of the weblink in that profile...
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@eightyeight ...that's what profile spamming is all about: creating high-PR links (within ic.a) to their profile to boost their target link
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@sudaraka anythnig that's tedious needs to be automated. this can be scripted.
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@mvdan that's potentially up to 4 high-PR links to the spammer's profile
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@marjoleink i can mass-spam much faster with ctrl-click than copy, new-tab, type, paste
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@marjoleink it only boosts it internally, and benefits no one, including themselves
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@marjoleink no, they don't. the link on their profile page comes from the i.ca uri. any pointing to their i.ca profile does nothing for them
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@mvdan i think a warning to the spammy accounts wouldn't be that bad. i thought it's because of the link-juice that we …
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@eightyeight the link *on* the profile page is a DOfollow/ link; a link created by @-name points directly to the profile page...
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@eightyeight what counts for the profile spammers is that any link *to* their profile is a 2nd order link to their web URL
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@eightyeight it does do things for them. there are three goals in 'SEO': indexing, rank, and traffic. a link to a profile helps with the 1st
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Stupid question coming... what does seo stand for? Spam, self-promotion, advertising...?
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@mvdan search engine optimisation
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Everything adds up now, thanks.
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@mvdan Search Engine Optimization
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if your hypothesis is correct, then i can create internal links under a single domain, and get awesome indexing. just not how it works
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the only way they get people to their profile, and to their site, is through constant notices. once silenced, it's all over.
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The spammers’ goal isn’t to get people to click, it’s to get search engines to crawl the pages, so the links get boosted by i.ca‘s ranking.
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@eightyeight yes, silencing is essential - and, even more so, hiding from public view: then there *cannot* be search engines indexing
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@eightyeight no, that is not how it works, How it does work is that you create links from as many domains as possible. each adds to it.
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