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  1. suresh suresh LibrePlanet , Free Knowledge

    All cellphones in Chile must be sold unlocked from January 2nd http://2tu.us/3oez !lp !fk #viaHN

    about 5 months ago from libratus
    • Artopal repeated this.
    • Jason Self Jason Self LibrePlanet

      Countries should instead mandate that all software on phones be Free as in Freedom.

      about 5 months ago
      Mike Linksvayer likes this.
    • Christina Haralanova Christina Haralanova LibrePlanet , Jason Self

      Very far from true though! @jxself Countries should instead mandate that all software on phones be Free as in Freedom.

      about 5 months ago
      Mike Linksvayer likes this.
    • Mike Linksvayer Mike Linksvayer LibrePlanet , Christina Haralanova , Michał Andrzej Woźniak , Jason Self

      @ludost @jxself yeah like I was saying to @rysiek https://identi.ca/conversation/87895796

      about 5 months ago
    • Alexandre Oliva Alexandre Oliva LibrePlanet , Christina Haralanova , Jason Self

      @ludost @jxself @psuresh yeah, I wouldn't say "instead" but "additionally": phone service&software portability

      about 5 months ago
    • Jason Self Jason Self LibrePlanet , Alexandre Oliva

      Additionally not needed; can't enforce anti-features such as SIM locking in a free software program because the users will just undo it.

      about 5 months ago
    • Jason Self Jason Self LibrePlanet , Alexandre Oliva

      So mandating that all software on phones be Free as in Freedom means that all phones are effectively unlocked already.

      about 5 months ago
    • Denver Gingerich Denver Gingerich Jason Self

      @jxself They could always move the SIM lock into hardware. That's why free software is insufficient, in this case and in general.

      about 5 months ago
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      DJ Dougernaut DJ Dougernaut LibrePlanet , Jason Self

      depends on where the locking is done.

      about 5 months ago
    • Jason Self Jason Self Denver Gingerich

      @ossguy @douglasawh Maybe, but I doubt cell phone manufacturers want to do limited production runs of a model for just one carrier.

      about 5 months ago
    • Alexandre Oliva Alexandre Oliva LibrePlanet , Jason Self

      @jxself good point. though I could imagine an agreement between operators to SIM-lock phones without software anti-features

      about 5 months ago
    • Jason Self Jason Self LibrePlanet , Denver Gingerich , DJ Dougernaut

      @ossguy So it's in the manufacturer's interest to do enable it via software instead, and allow the carrier to program as appropriate.

      about 5 months ago
    • Jason Self Jason Self LibrePlanet , DJ Dougernaut

      (Part 1) Implementing as a circuit means carrier can never again update if they bought, are bought, or merge: http://ur1.ca/7albm.

      about 5 months ago
    • Jason Self Jason Self LibrePlanet , Denver Gingerich , DJ Dougernaut

      @ossguy Customers would need to get new handsets instead of remotely updating wth new list of acceptable MNCs.

      about 5 months ago
    • Denver Gingerich Denver Gingerich Jason Self

      @jxself They can flash code to write-once chip. My point is that insisting only on free software doesn't always give flexibility you want.

      about 5 months ago
    • Jason Self Jason Self Denver Gingerich

      I understand, but it also means the carrier can never again update it without replacing the hardware. I don't think they'll go for that.

      about 5 months ago

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